Does anyone rate Joe Louis above Muhammad Ali?

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  1. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Is seems generally considered a reasonable position. I'd consider reasonable. But I hardly ever see people argue for it.
     
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    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I do rate Joe over Ali and I think he may have beat him also, something it took years to change in me from my big Ali following in my GG days. Joe in the Primo, Baer and Max S. bouts had a bounce in his legs that belies the shuffling movement we usually associate with Joe and his hand speed and accuracy were amazing. When I go back over Ali's 60's bouts before the William's go I'm not now terribly impressed, not against Terrell, the injured Patterson or Chuvalo who despite a very slow moving forward was able to catch and pound Ali hard to the body numerous times. Now against William's and Folley it was a different Ali but if I'm taking his while body of work I would rate Joe ahead of him.
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Depends on the day.
     
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  4. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I rate Joe higher than Ali
     
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  5. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I put Louis over Ali.
     
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  6. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah.

    I reckon at the end of the day where you rank who depends mostly on what is most impressive to you and who represents those things the most. For me Joe Louis's efficiency was more impressive than Ali's ability to combine so many techniques.
     
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  7. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Ali is greater,Ali ranks higher h2h and legacy
     
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  8. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali’s my hero and number 1 but I’ve no issue with anyone having Joe Louis over him at all.
     
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  9. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Same
     
  10. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    I have Louis above Ali. Been that way for a few years now.
     
  11. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Wladimir Klitschko came close to matching Ali and Louis
     
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    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Had he got in a few more title defenses and retired he could have rated above them.
     
  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Its very reasonable, I don't myself,but his resume entitles him to be so considered .
     
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  14. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    I do
     
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  15. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, in my opinion, Joe Louis had the greatest reign in heavyweight history. In a mythical matchup , Joe probably can't corner Ali but I wouldn't bet a lot on it.
     
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