Does Anyone Rate Wlad ahead of Lennox

Yes, Seamus.

 

I have Lewis at 3 and Wlad at 4.

 

Agree with this same place i have them

 

Lennox's hail Mary win over Vitali and overall stronger era makes him the better candidate for being above Wlad but Wlad does have the longevity, so i suppose someone could make an argument there? If NoNeck doesnt have Wlad above Lewis then id struggle to find anyone who does

 

No Wladimir suffered worst losses aka Sanders loss which wasn't a punch out of nowhere Wladimir got dominated and beaten up that effects his legacy considerably as he was in his physical prime.

Lewis overall also had stronger opposition and finished his career on a high unlike Wladimir. For me it's clearly Lewis and its not even debatable

 

Wlad hadn’t even started his title reign. Lewis never had a long title reign due to Rahman and McCall.

And McCall and Rahman weren’t out of nowhere. McCall’s entire gameplan, as crafted by Steward, was to throw with Lewis. Rahman had been setting that punch up for the entire fight. The other big rights either missed or weren’t good enough to get the ko.

 

What i mean is comparing the loss to Sanders that was a beat down Wladimir didn't win a single second in that fight and got utterly crushed that's a terrible loss IMO in the manner in which Wladimir lost. Lewis's losses to McCall, Rahman, were bad losses the McCall one not so bad as Lewis did actually get up, but Lewis revenged the loss to Rahman in stunning fashion in an immediate rematch.

 

Foreman had him at #1. Ask him another day and he'll have someone else at their spot.

 

No chance. Even if Wlad had avenged all of his prime losses Lewis still has the better wins.

 

Wlad accomplished more imo with his dominant reign.
But Lewis beat better fighters and that's al that matters.

 

I agree completely with this. I have Lewis comfortably top 5, Wlad probably just outside the top 10.

 

Nope. But I have Lewis at #3.

Wlad sits comfortably at #8 and rising.

 

Surely you mean #8 P4P all time ?