does anyone still think kessler could have beaten dawson at a 170 cw ?

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  1. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol::hey:hi:
    just another exposed hype-job.
    recently jones (another calzaghe's victim was exposed worse)
    lacy (another calzaghe victim exposed twice , taylor in one of them)
    and andrade (kessler's victim) exposed.

    also wright who hopkins should have used a headbutt in round1 was outboxed by williams who was given fits by martinez.

    and dawson just repeated his wins vs. both johnson and tarver.

    so does anyone finally understand that kessler is a total hype job who ducked mads larsen for years now ?
    why didn't they fight ? it could have sold tickets for sure in Denmark.
    especially when kessler was a less nuthugged icon than the last year or two.
     
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  2. TommyV

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    1 - You're 2 weeks late.
    2 - Dawson is a similar hype-job. I wonder when he's going to stop his OAP tour and fight a young champion. He rain like the wind from both Diaconu and Cloud. No matter, I'm sure Hopkins even at 45 would be happy to give him a boxing lesson should Dawson manage start selling-out even small arena's without boring everybody to sleep.
     
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  3. TheGreat

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    I guess Adamek is a hype job as well right, seeing how he couldn't take Dawson out.
     
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  4. TommyV

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    Adamek was weight-drained and hadn't fully-developed his range of ability as a fighter. Adamek would **** Dawson up at CW.
     
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  5. Pimp C

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    Kessler would have been absolutely tooled by Dawson at anytime or any weight. A robotic boxer like Kessler is tailor made for Dawson who would tee off on him with combos from all angles and I've always felt this way.
     
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  6. TheGreat

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    :rofl I should've known I'd get that kind of BS from you.
     
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  7. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    maybe at the full CW limit of 200 but not at a catchweight of some 180-182 which may still be doable for adamek.
    adamek's body simply is more suited to steroids and HGH i guess.
    and yes , i am 2 weeks late .
    and only hype-jobs can get 2 wins over tarver , a win against johnson , a win over adamek and a win over harding. total hype-job.

    and cloud was quite exposed by an older woods than the one who lost to tarver who twice lost to dawson the hype-job.
    some reasoning you have.
    Kessler the favorite to win the super6 :-(
     
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  8. lefthook89

    lefthook89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you were making good points up to there, woods didn't do a damn thing to cloud other than be at the recieving end of a brutal 12 round beating. my god, the things people say when a boxer doesn't knock everyone out:-(. i feel as if as the sport gets older the fans get dumber.
     
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  9. dhralf

    dhralf **** the queen! Full Member

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    Adamek is a hype job....:nono Sure not, he even managed to beat a prime Golota....;)
     
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  10. K-Man

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    Kessler was athletically a step or two below what he was 2 years ago, that was the first problem. Question is if he ever had the reflexes to deal with Wards style, as Calzaghe beat him similarly (minus the butting). The Kessler as of Ward and even Perdomo would have had problems with any mover whatsoever.
     
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  11. SoxNation

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    Dawson is the best fighter over 147 and kessler would've never had any chance of beating him.
     
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  12. Pimp C

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    :deal
     
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  13. lefthook89

    lefthook89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    co-sign:good
     
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  14. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    dawson is probably the best at 175 , but what about abraham , povetkin , tua , toney ? and i even did not seriously try to find more.
    i admit that toney is quite worn today but still has a very good technique.

    i like dawson to fight either adamek at a 180 or 182 catchweight , danny green at up to 180 catchweight or maybe someone like alan green at some 170 catchweight. there are of course the options of cloud , shumenov , garay , campillo , murat and uzelkov but how much can these sell ?
     
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  15. SoxNation

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    I don't think Toney has anything left, Tua hasn't really fought any quality opposition in a while, and Povetkin is not up there with him either. Would you rank Povetkin,Tua, or Toney over the Klitschko's? Dawson's more complete than Abraham at this point and time. Abraham is a good fighter, I just don't feel he's good enough to beat a Chad Dawson type of fighter.
     
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