Does anyone think neither Floyd or Pac is ducking the other?

Casa · Jan 12, 2012

Am I the only that thinks this is all just a pissing contest to maximize their dollars? This fight could have happened years ago for record purses but it's not like these guys were starving while they were racking up easy wins in the mean time.

They don't need each other and if the fight never happens, the fans are the ones who suffer the most. And if the fans get upset with Pac or Floyd, all they have to do is point the finger at the other guy and say "blame him."

divac · Jan 12, 2012

Casa said: ↑

Am I the only that thinks this is all just a pissing contest to maximize their dollars? This fight could have happened years ago for record purses but it's not like these guys were starving while they were racking up easy wins in the mean time.

They don't need each other and if the fight never happens, the fans are the ones who suffer the most. And if the fans get upset with Pac or Floyd, all they have to do is point the finger at the other guy and say "blame him."
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I dont think the fans suffer so much. Both fighters legacy's will take a big hit though.
In the long run both Pacquiao and Mayweather will have to live with not making the fight when both were at their peak.

PowerPuncher · Jan 13, 2012

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Me. Unless I'm troll parodying, I don't even use the word duck for either of them. Their bodies of work speak to neither being scared of anyone. It's not a secret that Arum and Floyd can't stand each other. It's not a secret that Floyd's a part-time fighter, once retired. It's not a secret that Pac has fought at the top level way past people said he was slowing down and suspected he'd be gone. If the system made it so that there was only one recognized champion, they'd probably have been in the ring by now, because with titles come prestige, and with that comes the business success. This is just an unfortunate mess with two guys in the twilight of their careers and it shouldn't sully their entire career that they just happened to wind up in the same division at a wishy washy time for them, and were unable to come to a successful negotiation because of politics and partly logical risk/reward concerns that are only natural.

Mayweather ducking talk didn't really start until he retired and revisionist history started creeping in. Anyone who thinks Pacquiao is a cherry-picker or ducker has to be way up their own ass, when he's fought the modern Mexican holy trinity across eight ****ing fights, in his career, and revised their own history after Clottey caused a stinker. That's hindsight. Nobody ever dominated Clottey before that and he'd earned another shot at the WBO title. To think either of these guys are hype jobs, you'd have to be a moron or have started watching boxing in 2007, 2008, maybe. :-( Even at that, I think the opportunism has been over-exaggerated, in their fights since, like Margarito, Ortiz and Mosley.
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None of any of that means there isn't any ducking, just saying brah

mafiajoey · Jan 13, 2012

Pac will "NEVER" Fight Floyd.... And as the years go on we will start to realize Pac was making excuses from day one. Although the Floyd haters will continue to hate regardless... If I were Pac (same for Floyd) losing to the other man wouldn't be a bad thing for Pac... If Pac loses to Floyd he will still have the ******* Nation behind him... He has lost a lot of fights so who really can get pissed if he loses? I think this whole thing is just about the haters praying to god Pac is the Mayweather Kryponite.. Mix in a little ******* Nation and well.... You could be over on Saddo where you can't have a negative opinion about Pac...

Thank you.... Until we meet again.....

Boxed Ears · Jan 13, 2012

PowerPuncher said: ↑

None of any of that means there isn't any ducking, just saying brah
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:huh Well, I left my Ron Popeil Proveanegativeatronic 5000 in my other pants. Luckily, to answer the TS's question, I don't need anything other than an opinion, which he was asking for and I shared. :thumbsup

lewishamboy · Jan 13, 2012

They're BOTH ducking each other. Both of these ***s are terrified of each other.

PaoloMirani · Jan 13, 2012

Boxed Ears said: ↑

Me. Unless I'm troll parodying, I don't even use the word duck for either of them. Their bodies of work speak to neither being scared of anyone. It's not a secret that Arum and Floyd can't stand each other. It's not a secret that Floyd's a part-time fighter, once retired. It's not a secret that Pac has fought at the top level way past people said he was slowing down and suspected he'd be gone. If the system made it so that there was only one recognized champion, they'd probably have been in the ring by now, because with titles come prestige, and with that comes the business success. This is just an unfortunate mess with two guys in the twilight of their careers and it shouldn't sully their entire career that they just happened to wind up in the same division at a wishy washy time for them, and were unable to come to a successful negotiation because of politics and partly logical risk/reward concerns that are only natural.

Mayweather ducking talk didn't really start until he retired and revisionist history started creeping in. Anyone who thinks Pacquiao is a cherry-picker or ducker has to be way up their own ass, when he's fought the modern Mexican holy trinity across eight ****ing fights, in his career, and revised their own history after Clottey caused a stinker. That's hindsight. Nobody ever dominated Clottey before that and he'd earned another shot at the WBO title. To think either of these guys are hype jobs, you'd have to be a moron or have started watching boxing in 2007, 2008, maybe. :-( Even at that, I think the opportunism has been over-exaggerated, in their fights since, like Margarito, Ortiz and Mosley.
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Another quality post....but STFU you're making the rest of us look bad.

Jetmax · Jan 13, 2012

They both doesn't have a problem not facing each other yet because they know there are/were still other profitable fights for both of them. It can wait the question is until when?

Thomas!! · Jan 13, 2012

Boxed Ears said: ↑

Me. Unless I'm troll parodying, I don't even use the word duck for either of them. Their bodies of work speak to neither being scared of anyone. It's not a secret that Arum and Floyd can't stand each other. It's not a secret that Floyd's a part-time fighter, once retired. It's not a secret that Pac has fought at the top level way past people said he was slowing down and suspected he'd be gone. If the system made it so that there was only one recognized champion, they'd probably have been in the ring by now, because with titles come prestige, and with that comes the business success. This is just an unfortunate mess with two guys in the twilight of their careers and it shouldn't sully their entire career that they just happened to wind up in the same division at a wishy washy time for them, and were unable to come to a successful negotiation because of politics and partly logical risk/reward concerns that are only natural.

Mayweather ducking talk didn't really start until he retired and revisionist history started creeping in. Anyone who thinks Pacquiao is a cherry-picker or ducker has to be way up their own ass, when he's fought the modern Mexican holy trinity across eight ****ing fights, in his career, and revised their own history after Clottey caused a stinker. That's hindsight. Nobody ever dominated Clottey before that and he'd earned another shot at the WBO title. To think either of these guys are hype jobs, you'd have to be a moron or have started watching boxing in 2007, 2008, maybe. :-( Even at that, I think the opportunism has been over-exaggerated, in their fights since, like Margarito, Ortiz and Mosley.
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Wow good post.

I need to go read a dictionary or something.

Your bang on about the revisionist historians though :good

anthony jr · Jan 13, 2012

Thomas!! said: ↑

Wow good post.

I need to go read a dictionary or something.

Your bang on about the revisionist historians though :good
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I was thinking the same thing i think he is one of the few who is looking at it from neither fighters side.
Both fighters are to blame if pac wanted to fight on May 5th he would be and if mayweather wanted to fight he wouldnt have tried negotiate through ****ing twitter(real proffesional)

Uncle Rico · Jan 13, 2012

Am I the only that thinks this is all just a pissing contest to maximize their dollars?
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Nope. Plenty of others are with you.

PH|LLA · Jan 13, 2012

I think there's a lot of behind the scenes **** going on that we don't know about. Mostly a tug of war between GBP, Haymon, and TR

ptm · Jan 13, 2012

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