Does anyone think Roy.....

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  1. drvooh

    drvooh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Could beat anyone in the top five or ten light heavy weights ?
     
  2. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    nope...he's done...

    he would have to drastically reinvent the way he fights in order to do that...and its too late for that...his reflexes and legs are gone...
     
  3. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    if he gets himself focused mentally and physicaly,yah he could.

    i mean look at hopkins.

    hes not ****ing shot.
     
  4. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Father time has treated Hopkins well, plus he trains like an absolute beast and his style is much better suited to age.
     
  5. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    yes he coudl but it doesnt mean that he is now gonna be a title holder from now on.
     
  6. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    Roy should just hang them the **** up. He should've gone out after trinidad and called it a day. Unfortunately, the guy craves and longs for the spotlight, whether it paints a positive or negative picture notwithstanding. Roy's going to be that guy who keeps getting drawn back into the ring until that tragic day he gets hurt BADLY and is forced out of it for good.

    Tragically, when Roy was in his prime, I could never, ever imagine him being that guy. He seemed too smart, he talked the retirement game from an early stanza and I envisioned him walking away when the time was right -- ESPECIALLY when you consider what happened to McLellan and the impact it had on him from the outset.
     
  7. TheGreat

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    At 40 he's supposed to get better :nut, Hopkins is way past his prime fights nothing like the guy I saw in the late 90s, the last time he looked peak was against Joppy in 03.
     
  8. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Top 5? Like Calzaghe, Hopkins, Dawson, Johnson? No way.

    But he could beat some other top 10 LHW if he was in great shape. In any case, the guy should definitely retire for good now. He has nothing else to prove, plus he could get a whole lot of $$$ by staying in the boxing business as a commentator, trainer etc.
     
  9. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Top 5 No. Top 10 probably. i think RJJ is done and should retire. he really has nothing more to do in the ring.
     
  10. MRBall

    MRBall MRBaLL Full Member

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    Yes he still can
     
  11. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    two important addendums to your piece:

    1) Bernard Hopkins has never been brutally knocked out in his career, let alone twice. The psychological impact that can have on a boxer, especially when fed a God complex for so long as RJJ was, can be devastating. I don't think i have to explain to you how many elite fighters went quickly downhill after suffering debilitating defeats.

    2) Bernard Hopkins' style lends itself more to longevity than Roy's does -- more in-the-pocket, more fundamentals employed, holding, clenching. Roy never did ANY of those things in his prime. Roy was about circling away from your power and dodging in and out with incredible quickness -- you lose your legs and this strategy goes right out the window, and then what are you left with if you haven't been utilizing those fundamentals consistently over your pro career? Not much.
     
  12. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    Stick a fork in him...He needs to retire. He's given us plenty to remember him by, and hes the most gifted fighter to ever wear boxing gloves
    8 time world champion over 4 divisions, what more can he do?
     
  13. H .

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    Roy's done. unfortunate but true. provided some great memories though
     
  14. drvooh

    drvooh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ;)
     
  15. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    bing bing we have a winner everyone eles can go home now.

    Jones is a fighter that used his god given talent to win fights, his un-natural speed, and cat like reflexes...Those things are gone, Jones was never a fighter that relied on techincal skill, and/or classical boxing skills. Meaning he would jump in with fast hard hooks and be out of the way before the return. Bait people to throw shots move and counter.

    Hopkins was more of a throw back. He used good defense, and a wide aray of offencive attacks but all very classic, always working behind his jab, its a skill that has allowed Hopkins to hold on to his better days of boxing longer.