Does Arce stand a chance?

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    i've got 225$ that says he doesn't
     
  2. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    if he can land flush on Darchinya's Glass Jaw he sure does have a chance.
     
  3. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Darchinyan's got a good chin he's very tough overall whilst Arce's power is overrated and he's a mere shadow of the fighter he once was, so, in my view, unless Darchinyan takes him lightly, which is not at all unlikely, unfortunately, Darchinyan should put a beating on him. My main concern is Darchinyan's motivation and focus. Given the bad blood between them, I trust Darchinyan will not throw this one away, however. Fingers crossed!
     
  4. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    VIC in my opinion isn't a fighter who is UNBEATABLE. I won't call him "over rated" b/c he's beaten LEGIT fighters/champions. But Nonito showed that Vic's ever present FLAWS are easy to take advantage of if you are not fighting him scared! Most of Vics opponents are fighting shook and Vic picks up on that b/c lets be honest...the guy is a bully! He feeds off of fear and weakens his opponents b/c he does have some outstanding power. But offensively and defensivly the guy is spotty to say the very least. Nonito was the only fighter i've seen that didn't back up and wasn't caught off guard by his unorthodox punches coming from weird angles.
     
  5. Flea Man

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    Stats say no.

    Arce's defensive style of blocking everything with his face will not work well against one of the hardest hitters P4P today; he's past his best; he's gonna' get cut up bad and knocked out etc etc etc

    Personally, I believe the above statement. However, by the stats Vic should not have beaten Mijares. Possibly, Shane should not have beaten Margarito (though Shane showed he had a style that would be effective, many thought Shane's apparently declining skills and Margo's workrate would at least allow Toni to win a UD) and everyone thought Holyfield would be destroyed against Valuev and had no place being there.

    Recent form has shown us one thing-Nothing is ever stone-clad in boxing.

    I predict Arce will get destroyed within five rounds, but Vic has been stopped at a lower weight, Arce has been the underdog before and came out on top, and Arce has probably been in there with the better fighters.

    But Vic seems to be improving with every fight, has had a good run recently, and I would love to see him move up to BW and fight Montiel. Just a shame it couldn't have happened at SFW, it'd be a shame if Vic and Fernando's power didn't travel up with them....though hopefully it will.
     
  6. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We shall see.....Technically Arce is superior and style wise I think this fight favors Arce. Vic's "D" is very questionable......It's hard to tell only b/c most of his oppoents are fighting very defensivley themslves while VIC is almost always the aggressor. Mirjares was fighting scared! Plus VIC ended up boxing Chris which threw Mijares off but when Vic landed and Chris felt the power he started fighting like a scared boy, winging and throwing punches without thought. VIC to his credit stayed calm and stuck to the game plan. But stylistically I think Vic will try to take the fight to Arce! And he'll end up trying to fight on the inside where that will favor Arce's style. Not respecting the Power of Arce will be a mistake by Vic b/c Vic can be KO'd. Either way I think this fight ends early...I just think Arce will be the one causing the 2nd upset in 2009.
     
  7. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  8. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I think the rounds will be very close early on, and then Darchinyan will knock out Arce in the 7th to 9th rounds.
     
  9. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Darchinyan showed a much improved defence in his last fight, against a fighter who wasn't worse than Arce in any department. If he fights in any way as well as he fought last time around (for me, one of the very best performances of the year), very few indeed should have a decent chance of beating him. Darchinyan is inconsistent, however, and he's his own worst enemy, so anything can happen. Some people recently drew a negative comparison between his mentality and that of Margarito, and they have a point; however, I don't think he's as susceptible to tactics and styles as to his own lack of focus, motivation, and, of course, hubris. If he is focussed and motivated, I don't think it matters that much whether you try to stand up to him or not because there are few fighters with a better power/chin combination than him. Could any of the current lot at their best have beaten the version of Darchinyan that fought Mijares? I have my doubts.
     
  10. Flea Man

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    Montiel.
     
  11. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Mijares has worse power and a worse chin than Arce, and those could come into play. Also, Arce is a better inside fighter than Mijares, and the best way to beat Vic is to get inside of his looping punches.

    Also, Vic doesn't have a great chin, merely an average one. He was KOed on one punch by Donaire, and he was floored a couple times by Z Gorres.

    That said, I'd pick Vic to win pretty convincingly. Arce is more faded than Vic is, even though he's a few years younger, and I don't think he has the speed to beat Vic to the punch.
     
  12. D_knowsboxing

    D_knowsboxing The King is back Full Member

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    I take vic via KO in this fight.
     
  13. Flea Man

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    More faded than Vic is??? Vic isn't faded at all, I think technically and physically he's entering his prime. He may be in his 30's but it doesn't look that way.
     
  14. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    That's mostly what I mean. I think Vic's punch resistance has gone downhill a bit, and he was more of a beast at 112 than at 115, but physically he's doing just fine. It's foolish to think he's entering his prime though - the smaller the fighter is, the earlier his prime is, and he's shown a few signs of deterioration, albeit not major ones. He more than makes up for it by throwing better than he did the past few years. Arce, on the other hand, has clearly lost a step or two and is starting to get wobbled by punches he used to take just fine.
     
  15. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I don't think Arce has sufficient power to hurt Darchinyan on the inside, if Darchinyan's on the ball - he'll hit back and then some. I agree with you and others who say Arce will turn it into a gunfight. It should be a very exciting, contested fight! I cannot wait.