Does Bute have to win by KO/TKO in England?

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  1. lewishamboy

    lewishamboy Styles Impetuous Full Member

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    As opposed to Canada where he can lose by KO but still get a UD? :think
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    It depends on the complexion of the fight.

    If it's a close, nip-and-tuck affair that the fans and media have a by point in either direction - yeah, Bute will probably come up short and not get the benefit of the doubt.

    I don't think British judging is that bad so as to produce a Williams vs. Lara type situation, though. If Bute is dominant throughout, he will get the win.
     
  3. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I see one Canadian, one English and one American judge plus hopefully an American ref . . . but even then Lucy will have to KO him or literally 100-shots to 1 each round to get a close split decision. Heaven help him if that one shot lands flush because they will stop the fight! did you ever see Calslappy's KO highlight reel?
     
  4. Eastcoast

    Eastcoast Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I say no. But if Froch gets Bute in trouble there could be an early stoppage. Bute definitely won't get the benifit he seen the Andrade fight.
     
  5. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A welcome voice of reason.
    Is it really that much of a stretch to believe this fight could be won fair and square?
     
  6. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think that's very unlikely. As IB say's if its a close fight Froch will get the benefit of the doubt of course but that's true for visiting fighters all over the world. I'd be surprised and disapointed if there was an American style robbery.

    The worst decisions in recent big UK based fights that spring to mind are Froch/Dirrell, Clinton Woods/ Johnson I and Khan/MAB. Not at all good for boxing but no where near as bad as Cloud/Campillo, Kotelnik/Alexander or Helenius/Chisora.

    As for a premature stoppage if it's a neutral referee then it hopefully won't be a problem.
     
  7. BretN

    BretN Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bradley got a close decision against Junior Witter in England. Anyone thinking the UK judges are as corrupt as German or Canadian ones are delusional
     
  8. jeffjoiner

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    :deal

    The answer is clearly between your two options. Froch will have a slight advantage, but the judging in England is pretty fair.

    At first, I thought Direll won the matchup with Froch; I was emotionally involved pulling for the American and didn't like Froch at that time. A couple of weeks later, I watched the fight by myself and scored it for Froch.


    BTW: Americans also consider the judging in Texas to be horrible. We consider them along the same lines as the Canadians and Germans.
     
  9. makavel

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    True:good
     
  10. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    Or USA?

    Why no one ever taking about USA?

    Worst place.
     
  11. godlikerich

    godlikerich Active Member Full Member

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    Judging in England is on par with most places in the world. The home town fighter usually does better on the scorecards where ever you go. The refereeing however in England is absolute ****. So many times I have been robbed of a good fight watching English referees jump in way too quickly. Makes me want to die.
     
  12. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I agree. USA, particularly Texas.
     
  13. Post Box

    Post Box I'm back too, bitches Full Member

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    Nope, just win more than 6 rounds, which he will do.
     
  14. mr fists

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    everywhere is bad for robberies tbh. as for people moaning about brit stoppages, pascal took a lot of shots and the ref never stopped it, so...
     
  15. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    Don't think English judges are that bad. Didn't an English judge have him losing 118-110 to Ward, while the other guys had it 115-113?

    I don't think it's even comparable to Germany and I'd say they were much more competent, on the whole, than American judges. I don't know if US judges are corrupt or just terrible at their job but I'd honestly rather fight a British fighter in Britain than America - that's how bad it is. I'll take a little bias over severe incompetence.

    Campillo-Cloud and Shumenov II, Lara-Williams - the scoring lately has been awful.