does chess and boxing have something in common ?

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  1. boxing_master

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    Chess and boxing seem as bizarre a pairing as anything, but they do have something in common, writes David Edmonds.

    One is a duel often characterised by cruelty, ruthlessness and violence. And boxing is much the same.

    The former world heavyweight champion, Lennox Lewis, is now more likely to be seen hunched over the chess board than in the boxing ring. Yet the very idea that boxers might play chess, and vice versa, strikes many people as incongruous.

    Chess after all, is the ultimate cerebral sport - boxing the most nakedly brutal. When his chess opponents discover he used to box, Lennox says, they're convinced they'll whip him. "And when I beat them, they're upset."

    chess pieces; boxing gloves
    David Edmonds is a chess writer and co-author of Bobby Fischer Goes To War.


    Lewis jokes that he wants a promoter to put on a chess match between him and his old rival - though it seems unlikely that any chess bout would command the multimillion dollar purse they fought over in 2003.

    The weirdness of combining boxing and chess - brain and brawn - has been used to attract spectators to a new sport, "chess boxing." It sounds like something from Alice in Wonderland.

    In chess boxing the two combatants have alternating rounds of chess and boxing, victory achieved in several ways but most clearly by a checkmate or a knockout.

    After trying to bash and bruise each other around the face and body, the opponents remove a single glove and continue the duel, sweating and panting, over the 64 squares.

    Meanwhile the commentator shifts surreally from one activity to the other - "he's got him on the ropes with some jabs and a powerful right hook", and now "Re1, an ingenious move seizing control of the open file". There have been chess boxing contests in London and LA, Kolkata and Tokyo.

    One of the most insightful of chess commentators, grandmaster Jonathan Rowson, says that boxing is the sport that most closely resembles chess. "In part it's the purity of the competition," he says. "There is virtually nothing to mediate the one-to-one combat. Boxing has gloves, but there are no balls, no goalposts, no clubs or racquets."

    Then there's the brutality. In boxing this is transparent. In chess it's sublimated but no less real. "The emotional impulse behind chess, and the pain it inflicts, is comparable - but just takes a different form," says Rowson. In chess, defeated players have nothing to blame other than the inadequacy of their mental apparatus - cognitive shortcomings with which they have to live each and every day. As such, defeat can be psychologically crushing.

    And victory in chess, especially but not exclusively at the elite level, requires an extraordinary will to power. The former American world champion Bobby Fischer once said that he enjoyed the moment when he could feel the ego of his opponent crumbling.

    And the Russian world champion Garry Kasparov, just as blunt, described chess as "the most violent sport there is", avowedly aiming to "destroy the adversary's ego". It's perhaps no coincidence that both boxing and chess are overwhelmingly male activities, and that the ferocious language used to describe chess would be equally apt for boxing. Chess players talk of "crushing" and "smashing" and "destroying" their opponents.:deal
     
  2. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Other than they both deploy strategy; NO.
     
  3. boxing_master

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    on the contrary i think they share alot in common :good
     
  4. blitzco

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  5. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    pacquaio plays chess
     
  6. jas

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    but no, i bet theres little correlation between being a good chess player and a good boxer
     
  7. boxing_master

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    :deal
     
  8. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    fencing and boxing have a lot in common
     
  9. boxing_master

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    i think more boxers should start playing chess in their tranning camps will help their nerve :good
     
  10. dodong

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    i saw the klit bros playing chess against each other on a documentary.
     
  11. boxing_master

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    :deal chess really helps ones boxing game very underrated in terms of helping boxers reach their full potential come fight night:good
     
  12. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    boxing is very much like chess. the further ahead u can think...the better your chances of winning.
     
  13. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    this.
     
  14. zicas

    zicas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sure they do.
    - Exploit your opponent's weaknesses, without leaving yourself exposed
    - Controlling the space
    - Adapting to your opponent and countering his moves
    - Know when to attack and when to step back
     
  15. McGrain

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