Does Chisora rank ahead of all of Haye's accomplishments if he beats Vitali?

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  1. DanielJFiasco

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    Vitali didn't look vulnerable in any of those fights to me. He looked unsightly and awkward, but he always has. Arguably the Briggs fight should have been stopped, and a lot of refs would have jumped in. Adamek and Sosnowski were toyed with by Vitali, and he stopped both of them. The Solis fight didn't show anything. To say he was outboxing Vitali is a stretch to me. He was mostly negative, in the same way Haye was against Wlad, only he didn't make it out of the first round. I mean for me to outbox somebody you have to at least win a round or two in my book. Vitali isn't usually a quick starter, he likes to get into a fight.

    I wish Delboy all the best and maybe Vitali is declining, but I don't see any evidence of it in his last few fights.
     
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  2. Ilesey

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    Of course not you ****ing prat.
     
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  3. Nipple

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    It's more than Haye has done at HW.
     
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  4. Black2023

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    If you think solis was being negative then i think we have a huge difference in perception, to me he was boxing on the back foot which isnt exactly negative boxing.

    Watch Vitali of 2003-2004...he was far more dynamic, he is winning now because he so much better....not because he is the same. Against Arreola he moved away a huge amount, watch himfight d. williams he went for him.

    Anyhow no one at the moment is good enough to take him out if Derek could punch he would be he cant so he wont despite the good head movement he showed in the helenius fight.
     
    Black2023, Feb 4, 2012
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  5. Black2023

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    yep sad part of boxing
     
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  6. The Batkilt

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    :lol: He held the WBA 'World' Title, but it was a paper weight - the title was stripped from Chagaev for fighting the best heavyweight in the world rather than a fighter he'd already beaten in Valuev. Haye was never world champion.

    But other than me being a pedantic *****, I agree with you. I'd say beating Vitali would be better than any of Haye's wins at the weight - hell, better than Haye's run at the weight in general - but Haye's amateur career and cruiserweight run can't be dismissed quite so easily.
     
    The Batkilt, Feb 4, 2012
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  7. Black2023

    Black2023 Guest

    your not being pedantic, your right. ....but history tells us haye was champ.




    Reality.....Lewis was champ in 2003-

    Wlad champ june 2009 and still.
     
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