Does Chocolatito get a pass?

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  1. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's rare to see a Chocolatito discussion that doesn't put a lot of focus on Cuadras and Estrada. A lot of people will give Ward a pass if he fights Stevenson instead of Kovalev next as well. I'm failing to see a double standard.
     
  2. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think anyone could really complain about Ward fighting someone like Stevenson. Dude's nominally lineal and a current titleholder. So, it's a way to completely unify the crown. In much the same way, a fighter like Rungsuvai would be yet another good name on Chocolotito's resume and is deserving of a crack at a title.

    In both cases, rematches would be welcome, but facing other deserving (and "deserving" would be the operative word) opponents in the interim shouldn't be held against the fighters in question.
     
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  3. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    what about my post says that I believe he doesn't deserve a rematch?! I only said I give him a pass for fighying another guy first, because he's not contracted to do otherwise and it wasn't as controversial as Kova vs Ward. I even wrte down that I want to see the rematch, but it doesn't have to be right away.
     
  4. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Double standard. He's so small no one really cares, but people think they'll sound educated if they call someone like that the pfp best. So they don't look at it too deeply.
     
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  5. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I garuntee you Ward will not get a pass for fighting Stevenson, Wards my favourite fighter and even I know he has to give Kovalev a rematch.
     
  6. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I asked a question I didn't actually accuse you of saying it, I'm not saying your coming from a place of bias, although you have to admit Caudras will feel hard done by if he doesn't get a rematch, the guy gave Chocolatito a beating in terms of facial damage, never seen his face look like that before.
     
  7. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even though I think both fighters should feel hard done by if they don't get their immediate rematches, I like the way you rationalise it.
     
  8. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Yes he does, several at this point, that being said, I'm happy as a lark that he's fighting Sor Rungvisai, I was planning on doing a thread about Roman at SFW and which guys might give him problems, and one of the guys I was going to say was Srisaket, he's like a mini-GGG he's a little beast, if he can take Roman's power (his only two KO losses were in his first 3 or 4 matches), this could be a shoe-in for FOTY.
     
  9. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    So we're pretending Gonzalez lost or struggled mightily to Cuadras now?
     
  10. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    First you say Liam Smith > Chavez Jr. and now you think Roman beat Cuadras easily, are you alright?
     
  11. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I never said or hinted at "easily." In fact, I've stated on this forum several times that I believe it was a close fight.
     
  12. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Right, the only point of calling him the p4p best is to sound educated. It has nothing to do with him being the most accomplished fighter in the world, being legitimate champion in 4 weight classes, fighting well above his peak weight and still getting the better of a younger, fresher and bigger champion.
     
  13. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Well myself and several other posters, Drenlou and Willie come to mind scored the fight for Cuadras, so yeah, there is an argument to made that Roman lost the match. And I would classify possibly losing the match and looking like you did a diving headbutt on a yellow jacket's nest post fight would kind of suggests, struggling mightily.
     
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  14. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Well that's your opinion. Mine is more in line with the majority this time, that it was close-but-clear and not quite close enough that I could see any case at all, round by round, that Gonzalez lost that fight at all.

    When you're the P4P King, everybody tries to tear you down.
     
  15. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    If your opinion is the majority then why is everyone clamoring for the rematch?