Does Cotto make your p4p top ten now?

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    1 - Floyd Mayweather
    2 - Roman Gonzalez
    3 - Manny Pacquiao
    4 - Wladimir Klitschko
    5 - Timothy Bradley
    6 - Guillermo Rigondeaux
    7 - Juan Francisco Estrada
    8 - Sergey Kovalev
    9 - Gennady Golovkin
    10-Naoya Inoue

    I resisted placing him when he beat Martinez because of Martinez's condition, but he is lineal at MW and however much we think GGG might butcher him, this is the p4p list - and Cotto is a former 140lb titlist who sits upon the MW throne. That's a p4p achievement.

    Would he make your list? What number?
     
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  2. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    Probably something like..

    1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    2. Guillermo Rigondeaux
    3. Wladimir Klitschko
    4. Roman Gonzalez
    5. Manny Pacquiao
    6. Sergey Kovalev
    7. Gennady Golovkin
    8. Juan Francisco Estrada
    9. Miguel Cotto
    10. Tim Bradley

    Could be swayed on some of them though. And of course once Andre Ward fights Smith and dismantles him i'd probably slot him top 3.
     
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  3. McGrain

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    Fair enough - beating Smith gets nobody anywhere near my ten though. He needs to beat somebody reasonable IMO. High high on Rigondeaux boy. He is absolutely superb.
     
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  4. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    I wouldn't rank Ward for a win over Smith but would rank him for simply re-establishing himself as an active fighter. Like how many slated Mayweather #2 after beating JMM and Ortiz after layoffs.
     
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  5. McGrain

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    Sure, but JMM was p4p (whatever else was going on) and even Ortiz was regarded more highly than Smith. Smith, famously, isn't even the best SMW in his family. Even if Ward KO's him in fifteen seconds, I wouldn't place him in the ten. But to each his own and Ward certainly is going to reclaim a top 3 spot at some point, unless we all get a big surprise.
     
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  6. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    :thumbsup
     
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  7. BundiniBlack

    BundiniBlack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sorry but Cotto's most meaningful win since the Margarito destruction is Josh Clottey a fight something Cotto actually lost. He's not P4P top 30
     
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  8. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    Explain how you rank Golovkin then?
     
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  9. BundiniBlack

    BundiniBlack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not top 10 but still far ahead of Cotto. GGG's wins over Geale and Murray are certainly better than anything Cotto's done since getting bashed by Margarito.
     
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  10. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    What's your top 10?
     
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  11. BundiniBlack

    BundiniBlack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In no order:

    Inoue
    Klitschko
    Mayweather
    Gonzalez
    Rigo
    Estrada
    Mares
    Huck
    Kovalev
    Pacquiao
    Bradley
    Adonis
    Crawford
    Yamanaka

    All have much better resumes than GGG and to me P4P is 90% resume 10% current form.
     
    BundiniBlack, Jun 7, 2015
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  12. Jake LaMotta

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    Please log off :good
     
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  13. beachie17

    beachie17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto not even close to top 10 for me.
    1. Floyd Mayweather
    2. Wladimir Klitschko
    3. Roman Gonzalez
    4. Manny Pacquiao
    5. Terrance Crawford
    6. Gennady Golovkin
    7. Naoya Inoue
    8. Saul Alvarez
    9. Guillermo Rigondeaux
    10. Alexander Povetkin
     
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  14. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He should be in the region of 10-15.
     
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  15. glovesofcrimson

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    Well, most people believe Martinez wasn't a great win, the achievement and going up there was, but Martinez would have been destroyed by anyone competent that night, the Geale win is impressive, the weight is a footnote but he wasn't a walking skeleton or anything.
     
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