Does current Canelo beat Mayweather he originally faced?

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  1. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Stills in a boxing match dont cut if for me bud
     
  2. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow!!! YOU mean Canelo actually landed some on Floyd? Damn.... Me, and EVERYONE ELSE, assumed Floyd never got a glove laid n him. Excellent work!! ESPN will call you soon to offer you a job....
     
  3. shadow111

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    A lot of posters would rather bury their head in the sand and live in la la land than being shown what happened. Don't discount how effective those stills were to some posters. Maybe not you, and that's cool, but if those can open some people's eyes and take them out of ignorance, then it's well worth it.
     
  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Plenty of people have argued that Canelo never laid a glove on him.
     
  5. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i can do that too. Post pics of Void bounching Clenos head and sweat flying off his head. If we going to win via still pictures. Two can play this games son..

    Sample number 1. Floyd counters him and Canelos misses was this not a schooling.
    https://tenor.com/view/mayweather-canelo-boxing-punch-fight-gif-16481845
    Floyd quick straight right Canelo didn't see it coming. Was this not a schooling?
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  7. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Hey, if it makes you feel justified in your beliefs then why not
     
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  8. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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  9. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: And you decided that ridiculous claim was worth fighting over. :lol: Here's a 'gimme' for your next huge undercover boxing expose, ALL fighters get hit. A lot. Even the best.
     
  10. shadow111

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    https://c.tenor.com/9vVzqZ54wtkAAAAd/canelo-canelo-alvarez.gif
    Canelo saw it coming. He turned his head right before it landed and rolled with it. Great right hand from Floyd there but Canelo did well to turn his head to limit the damage. Then Floyd tried a left hook, but Canelo got his glove on to it. Then Canelo throws a jab, Floyd rolled with it but it still landed.
    Great example of Canelo's blocking skill and tight guard on the ropes. Every single one of those punches Canelo blocked. The two big right hands connected with Canelo's right glove, did these punches graze his face as he was blocking them?
    This was the end of Round 2. Clean left hook to Floyd's chin. Floyd's two itty bitty counters had no power. Canelo's clean left hook was better.

    Good stuff buddy. Keep it coming.
     
  11. DonnyMo

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    (sigh) Canelo lost all 12 rounds.

    Yes, he managed to land a jab or two during the fight. Yes, he slipped, blocked or rolled a few punches here and there....

    but the man lost all 12 rounds.

    Canelo was in his EIGHTH world title fight, SEVENTH defense of the WBC 154lb title.....and lost all 12 rounds.

    Prime Floyd embarrasses Clenelo at any weight. That just is what it is.
     
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  12. shadow111

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    https://c.tenor.com/JYQKCU12HU8AAAAd/canelo-alvarez.gif
     
  13. Loudon

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    Sorry for the late reply, I’ve been busy.

    I respect what you’ve written.

    I’ll just make a few points to the above, and if you want to reply, you can. If you don’t, that’s cool. We can agree to disagree.


    I don’t think that Canelo would go all out and gas. I don’t think he’d look to throw a huge number of shots. But the punches he would throw, would be power punches. He’d be aggressive.

    You talk about baseless assumptions, yet you believe that Floyd would be happy playing the matador role and that he wouldn’t be concerned about Canelo’s pressure, where he’d control the centre of the ring and beat him to the punch etc. To me, those are the very definitions of baseless assumptions.

    Again, this is the same guy who wouldn’t let a young Canelo weigh 154 pounds. So you simply can’t make these kinds of assumptions when the guy you’re referring to would only originally fight him at 152 pounds. The same guy who wouldn’t fight above 154, and who only fought opponents at 154 twice in his entire career. It’s completely unrealistic. Of course Floyd would have been hugely concerned about fighting and being pressured by an elite level SMW-LHW who was in his prime.

    Canelo could close the gap. Maidana did. Oscar did. An elite SMW-LHW would force him backwards and eventually catch up to him. I truly believe that. Yes, Canelo is naturally a counter puncher. But a fight at this stage of his career against a 150 pound fighter would be an anomaly. He’d fight in a different way to what he normally does. He’d be far more aggressive where he’d implement his strength. And even if he couldn’t close the gap like how he intended, Floyd would still have to retreat. He would be put on the defensive. And that would negate his own offence.

    The knockouts that Canelo have at SMW and LHW are extremely relevant. Why? Because they’d have had a huge psychological impact on Floyd. It doesn’t matter if Kovalev and BJS etc, weren’t as good as what Floyd was on a P4P basis. Floyd would have respected the fact that the guy who he was facing whilst being 36 at 150 pounds, was capable of stopping top level fighters 3 divisions higher. Again, how confident and offensive would Floyd realistically have been, fighting a guy who was capable of such things?

    Floyd is extremely calculated. He was supremely confident and took the centre of the ring against a young Canelo, because Canelo didn’t even try and impose his physical advantages. Against today’s Canelo who’s now thinking of moving up to CW, Floyd would be facing a completely different type of challenge to the one over 8 years ago.
     
  14. Loudon

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    You didn’t say that Floyd would school Canelo. I confused you with another poster. My apologies.

    What Floyd said and what he did and didn’t do, is extremely relevant here. Simply because it gives you a profile of his mental make up.

    He would never have fought GGG.

    Again, he wouldn’t let Canelo weigh in at the limit back in 2013.

    Both of those things are extremely relevant here. Why? Because you are claiming that the very same guy wouldn’t have any issues being pressured by today’s version of Canelo, who’s now talking about moving up to CW.
     
  15. Bokaj

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    At 152, perhaps. At 168 it would be the greatest win in boxing history. By a distance. But I feel a more experienced Canelo would be too strong for him there.
     
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