Does current Canelo beat Mayweather he originally faced?

Floyd was at the end of his career.

In a rematch, he couldn’t have shown us anything different.

If you had a prime vs prime fight, then they’d have been even further apart in weight.

Floyd was prime at LWW.

Canelo is in his prime now, where he’s talking about moving up to CW.

 

Nonsense.

Floyd is clearly the better boxer of the two by a good measure.

But there is a reason for weight classes.

Floyd didn't even want a 154 lb Canelo when they fought.

Current 168 lb Canelo (ring weight around 180) walks through anything Floyd has and destroys the 150 lb Floyd.



In fact, 150 lb Floyd would lose to any ranked 168 lb fighter.

No reflection on the man, he was the most skilled of his era...but there's a reason he didn't go for even a 160 lb belt, much less a 168 lb.

 

This version of Canelo wouldn’t need a jab to get close to Floyd.

Floyd wouldn’t control the action with a SMW-LHW pressing him.

 

And how many times did you see him fight elite level SMW’s and LHW’s in his prime?

Today’s version of Canelo would present Floyd with a challenge that he’d never seen before.

 

What??

 

How is that relevant?

Canelo is now looking to move up to CW.

Floyd was 36 years old, weighing 150 pounds.

Today’s version of Canelo is a completely different challenge to the one that Floyd faced back in 2013.

 

You’d have to be an absolute fool to think that any elite level SMW-LHW wouldn’t adjust their normal styles/game plans, if they fought a one off fight against a 36 year old 150 pound fighter who possessed zero power.

Why on earth would today’s SMW-LHW version of Canelo not have been able to have hit Floyd?

Why on earth would a 200 pound version of Canelo box a 150 pound master boxer in Floyd?

He would never implement the same game plan as he did back in 2013.

What sort of fantasy world are you living in?

 

I despair.

First of all, it was you who labelled me as being delusional.

In your fantasy world, Floyd beating a guy who technically weighed a SMW on fight night, is the same thing as beating a legit SMW, who weighed in as a SMW. Well, no. It isn’t. It’s nowhere near the same.

It’s like I don’t know anything about boxing? Ha! Oh the irony.

I don’t know how many times I have to tell you the same thing. You obviously aren’t even reading my posts properly. I’m saying that TODAY’S version of Canelo would be more aggressive against Floyd, than what he normally is, and than how he was back in 2013.

I’ve absolutely no idea why you have researched and posted the above punch stats.

It’s absolutely baffling as to why you’ve done that.

Once again:

1. Today’s version of Canelo fighting a 150 pound Floyd would be a complete anomaly.

2. You don’t need to throw a huge volume of shots in order to be aggressive.

Today’s version of Canelo would not try and counterpunch a 2013 Floyd. He would walk him down aggressively, like any other elite level SMW-LHW would.

An elite level SMW-LHW wouldn’t have any respect for a 150 pound fighter, no matter how great they were. They wouldn’t back off and play to the opponents strengths. They would simply impose their own strength and power upon the match up.

What are you going to say if Canelo moves up and wins a belt at CW?

Are you going to say that a CW version of Canelo couldn’t have beaten a 2013 version of Floyd, as he doesn’t throw a lot of punches, and that he’d have waited on Floyd to counterpunch?

Your stats don’t mean anything.

You are only looking at the numbers and nothing else.

They don’t account for power punches and they’re not logical when matching an elite, power punching SMW-LHW, against a guy who was a safety first match maker, who wouldn’t even let a young version of Canelo weigh in at the limit.

You say that Canelo isn’t more aggressive now than what he was in 2013 based on your stats, despite the fact that instead of having pure boxing matches against guys, he’s now knocking out guys up to 3 divisions higher, where he’s throwing more power punches.

 

What are you talking about?

You can’t be aggressive if you throw a low amount of power punches, where you put your opponent on the defensive?

You don’t think that Canelo has been aggressive in ANY of his fights?

 

If Floyd was big enough to carry his weight to 168 and in his prime, he would still outclassed Canelo. Canelo is good and has power, but he’s nowhere near as masterful in the ring as Floyd was and he never will be.

 

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That's a different argument and you might be right on it.

The OP is basically matching today's 168 Canelo against end of the road 150ish Mayweather and I can't see it going well for Floyd.

 

I am curious: when was the last time Floyd was actually weighed?
IIRC he hasn't done that in years (not even for his return fight against JMM).

 

Never mind Golovkin at 160, Mayweather should have moved up to HW to fight Klitschko. Too fast, too skilled.

 

168 Clenelo would launch Floyd's head into seats. Kenny Bayless would be mopping up the IV fluids in the ring.