Does David Haye punch harder than Valuev?

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  1. TFFP

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    His hands are too slow to punch hard.

    Because you weigh 330lbs means ****. You can weigh 500lbs and you can't punch out without the necessary attributes. He lacks in speed, timing, he does not transfer his body weight effectively so they are mostly arm punches.
     
  2. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Valuev doesn't punch hard for his size.

    Haye definitely is the harder puncher of the two, no question.
     
  3. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Danny Willliams said during their sparring sessions he felt Hayes power and it was greater than Tyson's and Vitali's! :deal

    Now of course, Danny may be hyping him up because it was only a sparing session and they are friends. However it's pretty bloody obvious that Haye hit's harder than Valuev.
     
  4. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Valuev, like a lot of guy's does'nt punch his weight.

    Haye punches ABOVE his weight. :deal

    There some big mofo's out their that can't break an egg and snmaller guy's who could KO a horse.
     
  5. Boxing Gloves

    Boxing Gloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Valuev should hit harder than Tyson, Foreman and Shavers by this guys logic,
    but i guess he doesnt hit Harder than Butterbean?
     
  6. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Valuev doesn't hit as hard as Haye but he also takes a shitload of damage. Haye won't take what Valuev took.

    Haye better be smart and keep Monte on the end of his jab. If this turns into a brawl I give Monte a real good chance at pulling it out. He's already shown he has tremendous heart.
     
  7. markusmaar

    markusmaar Active Member Full Member

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    :rofl Valuev in a Garbage Truck....... :rofl :rofl

    Sorry, I'm laughing so hard thinking about Valuev driving through a wall in a Garbage truck that my ribs are starting to hurt!

    Come on, what about the straw in a storm being driven through a board!!

    Valuev punches like a half stuffed medicine ball, Haye is like a softball out of a bazooka! :bbb
     
  8. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's hard to say, my money would be on Haye though. Valuev is a huge man, but like many have already pointed out, he does not transfer his 330 pounds well into punches, Haye on the other hand is extremely heavyhanded for his size and knows how to get his weight behind a punch.

    If Valuev fought Haye, my money would be on Valuev, Haye may punch harder, but the guy cant take a punch well at all, Valuev can.
     
  9. TheGreat

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    McCline and Barrett hurt Valuev, he is not durable, if he didn't cherry pick he'd likely get KTFO.
     
  10. markusmaar

    markusmaar Active Member Full Member

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    I agree with your physics equation, but it doesn't account for skill -- which has tremendous impact on punching power.

    Let's say both punch:

    Valuev at 20 miles per hour
    Haye at 25 mph

    At impact, effectively how much weight is transfered into the punch?
    If Haye can transfer 60% of his weight into a punch, and Valuev only manages 30%, Haye is clearly the harder puncher.

    :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
    (Sorry, I'm still chuckling about Valuev driving through a wall in a Garbage truck, the image in my head is priceless!!)
     
  11. MrsPlatson

    MrsPlatson New Member Full Member

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    all this said, i'm sure valuev hits hard enough but he's so slow and easy to slip that he hardly ever lands clean - wasted size he is.
     
  12. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Q. F. T. :thumbsup
     
  13. El Borracho

    El Borracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Most heavyweight probably punch harder than Valuev, given his poor technique and late start in boxing.
     
  14. RonnieHornschuh

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    when valuev fully commits to his punches like in the barrett fight in round 11 he has decent power. remember that monster right hand that barrett ran right into?
     
  15. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lucky for most of Valuevs oponent, he is an arm puncher and doesnt know whow to put weight behind a blow.

    Still i imagine those arm punches are still pretty heavy...:lol: