Does Deontay Wilder have the most one punch power of all time

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  1. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    This is a good compilation of Wilders strenghts.

    Hes great at closing distance with his jab and swing combo. Often connects right on the cerebellum behind the ear:[url]https://goo.gl/images/XePyPp[/url]

    Its the balance centre. And when they dont go down at first they are still affected from it and looks drunk in the ring. A fast follow up combo and they will go down.

    Wilders cocktail of strenghts is height, reach, footspeed to close distance and his willingness to throw riskful wild swings. A miss could be devastating. But against shorter opponents or slow plodders he can take those risks and swing over the top or behind the guard with great success.

    However opponets with height, reach and weight and some speed can stalk him rather than backing up. Duhaupas followed a good plan but couldnt take advantage of it due to his slow hands.

    A good come forward jabber like parker, joshua, klitschko or pulev would offset his a-game.

    Then it would go down to straight punches and clinching and Wilder isnt effective there.

    When i see wilders ko's I see a system of his own strenghts and the same weaknesses in his opponents - to keep the hype rolling.

    He's good I give him that but hes not great.
     
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  2. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Good analysis
     
  3. JoffJoff

    JoffJoff Regular Junkie Full Member

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    I watched the fight - you were not kidding about the brutality on display, Sosa was landing uppercuts with both hands seemingly at will and ate a lot of leather from Williams too of course. I watched a few videos of fight clips and interviews, he feels cheated still to this day about the early stoppage against Roy and also alleges there were other irregularities which hampered him before the biggest fight of his career. I feel a bit embarrassed now that I didn't know who the guy was.
     
  4. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its easy to look like the biggest puncher of all time when all of your opponents have second careers as Limo drivers, carnival clowns, builders and electricians.

    Name ONE elite HW Wilder has faced. ONE
     
  5. JoffJoff

    JoffJoff Regular Junkie Full Member

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    Very convincing post, especially this point which pretty much sums up the ending of the majority of Wilders fights. Watching the video its so clear that his over-excitement/reckless windmilling is going to be his undoing against a physically and technically adept opponent who can keep his composure.
     
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  6. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    I've always found the correlation between punching power and level of competition interesting. Other than a good more experienced fighter avoiding a punch what's the connection between punching power and and level of competition? Maybe I'm missing something here...it's possible. I'm just trying to wrap my hands around how a more skilled heavyweight absorbing a right hand from Wilder vs a less skilled heavy weight would produce a different effect.

    Anywho, Wilder certainly needs to step up his game I've grown tired of the stiffs he's been facing.
     
  7. Caper

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    Agreed, I was extremely impressed with his showing vs Stiverene unfortunately I haven't seen that level of composure and balance from him since then. He has it in him to be controlled however his natural instincts take over once he smells blood and it reveals his achillies heel.
     
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  8. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There are three factors present in why the real elites like Wlad, AJ, Pov, Parker would not find Wilder a problem:

    1. His wild punches would be seen from a mile away and would not even connect.
    2. His lack of technique would result in him being countered and knocked out- you saw his amateur video vs the Russian dude?
    3. Even when he does connect, its not with one of the wild swinging punches but something more measured and does not have an impact on elite hws

    Wilder is nothing special in the punch power area.
     
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  9. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    He doesn't have the most one punch power right now. Klitschko, Povetkin, and Joshua hit harder. Wouldn't be surprised if Ortiz hit harder too.
     
  10. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    All excellent points but I think I've covered these aspects via a more condensed explanation. I still fail to see how this would create an accurate measure or barometer of punching power?
     
  11. JacK Rauber

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    There are a lot of names that come to mind before Wilder when it comes to big punchers. When I think of big punchers, the names that come to mind are Foreman, Shavers, Tyson, Lyle, Cooney, Lewis, Louis, Bowe, Klitschko, Rahman and even Morrison. I think they were all bigger punchers than Wilder. We need to see what Wilder will do when he gets in there with a top tier heavyweight. You could argue his most accomplished opponent to date is Arreola, and that's not saying much, especially at the stage of Arreola's career when they fought.
     
  12. Lady Girl

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    he couldnt even knock out Charlie with gloves on

    his power is overrated
     
  13. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    Here's punching power.

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  14. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. Only live opponent he has fought took him 12 and Stiverne was badly out of shape
     
  15. SmackDaBum

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    1. The thing with this is that many of his KO victims saw that long looping right hand comming but they took a step back and underrated Wilders insane ability to close the distance with it. And sometimes he blinds them with the jab.

    A tall and heavy opponent with some speed would just doubble up the jab while going forward and take a clinch. Wilder is fast with it but a sharp jab is always faster. See Kubrat Pulev for instance.

    As long as Wilder keeps fighting shorter guys or slow plodders he will look just as effective.

    Cant se him winning over either Parker. Fury. Joshua. Pulev or Klitshko. And his power would look mediocre when it comes to straight punches.

    But he could win over the likes of Povetkin due to height and reach advantage.