Does Edwin Valero have equal hand speed to Manny Pac?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jeff M, Apr 5, 2009.


  1. 1punch1nder

    1punch1nder **Bam Bam** Full Member

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    jeff m and finito are ruining valero's image.
     
  2. Knives7

    Knives7 Boxing Addict banned

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    Nah I still think that Pac was a lot better than Valero when he was 27. Pac has some defense, head movement, and relied too much on his left lean straight. That's all he had before while Valero right now, has no defense, no head movement, and no foot work. Although, Valero's toughness makes up for his lack of defense. In Pacquiao's case, his unhuman speed makes up for his flaws.

    I must say that Pac is still faster than Valero right now. Valero is able to throw hard fast punches but his punches are wide. He'll be open to counters. Also, if you watched the Mosquera fight you'll see that Valero's speed decreased immensely in the later rounds. Meanwhile, when Pacquiao's punches slow down, his punches are still faster than normal (Did that make sense?). You guys can call me a *******, I don't care. It's my opinion and I believe that that is the truth. Pac's speed > Valero's speed.
     
  3. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    You have to block it out. It isn't Valero that is saying these things, he's exciting but limited, we all know that, doesn't mean we can't be fans of his just because their nuthuggery is tiresome:good
     
  4. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!:good
     
  5. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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  6. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Thanks, I have recently realized she will become my future wife! lol
     
  7. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Well she ain't gonna' happy with her husband walking round with a pair of Venezualan testicles in his mouth :lol:
     
  8. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    When Valero is #1 in the world Fleaman, you will remember how right I was.
     
  9. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    You must like men talking like that but whatever floats your boat. No, she would be very happy!
     
  10. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Look man, all jokes aside, I am a fan of Valero, and if his power gets him through fights with Elite fighters, how couldn't I be, if I purport to be a fan of boxing???

    If he becomes top dog, damn right I'll think '**** I spent all that time telling Jeff M how wrong he was and there you have it!'


    But when Valero DOES get exposed, badly, will you admit I was right? Will you heck, you'll make excuses.
     
  11. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Fleaman and Harrison love to talk about guys genitals. Too bad for you Fleaman that Harrison and Borj are already lovers.
     
  12. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    No, I don't make excuses. If he were exposed (which will not happen) I'll admit I was wrong!
     
  13. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Don't really talk too much about guys genitals, unless calling people nuthuggers counts lol

    So you're saying Valero will never be beaten??? Surely that's a ridiculous statement to make??? I'm so sure that he will lose that I am counting down the days until he fights someone with class, i.e Pac, Marquez, Hell, even old Casamayor I will give him credit for if he beats, but I don't think he will.
     
  14. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I just saw the fight, Pitalua looked like 50 years old , no footwork, **** defence, no jab , no nothing, he was like a punch bag. How can the WBC let a fool like fight for the belt?
     
  15. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    Thats just the point Jeff, Valero is still not in the top level YET..But i think he will get there about 2yrs time..he has the potentials and though he has many flaws, it could be improved just like many other elite fighters when they were still prospects..But please don't over hype him, you're ruining his reputation..