Does Enzo's loss expose Haye as being overhyped?

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  1. geppy

    geppy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who has Haye really beat?

    A midget with no power (Fragomeni) who gave Haye a very tough fight.

    An undersized French Bodybuilder with no stanima (Mormeck) that almost Ko'd Haye. A 58 year old Virgil Hill almost beat Mormeck in the rematch. He is 1-1 with Oneil Bell. We seen how good Bell is against Dale Brown (Robbery) , Rothmann (Come from behind Ko) and Adamek ( completely dominated).

    And this guy Enzo, who can't take a punch.
     
  2. geppy

    geppy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye fought Barrett, claiming he was a top 10 fighter. That is the worst top 10 fighter you could possibly find. Accept for JD Champman, the opponent who Haye really wanted to fight. Haye said Chapman is the ideal opponent.

    Haye don't want to anyone at HW that can fight, and expects to get a title shot & huge payday. Yeah, Haye won a lot of belts but it was against the worst undisputed champion I have ever seen in boxing ( who nearly knocked him out) and a paper champion who was handed the WBO Belt.
     
  3. djoc175

    djoc175 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I saw this coming a mile off.
     
  4. djoc175

    djoc175 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I never heard Haye say that Barrett was top 10.If you could find the clip I'd be grateful though
     
  5. geppy

    geppy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Newbie, Haye said it many times.

    ****, Haye was saying JD Chapman was a top 10 opponent. I don't got time for nonsense. It is common knowledge.
     
  6. djoc175

    djoc175 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I asked for a link to a clip.:huh
     
  7. somerset

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    Fragomeni result looks pretty good now...
     
  8. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Amen.

    P.S. these haye huggers were also advocating putting haye in with big bro
    klit:patsch
     
  9. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Exactly.....wtf is up with these threads these days??
     
  10. Smazz20

    Smazz20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Revisionist crap. Haye is on a different level to Macca, both now and then. The best hope Macca had to beat Haye was hat Haye would come in weightdrained. He didn't and Macca got hammered.

    Ive nothing against the Klits but the fans are making out as if Haye is the Devil for actually wanting to fight either one of them!! Jesus Christ, so what? No one else is calling out the brothers, not Valuev, not Chagaev nor anyone else. Haye is the most glamourous heavyweight in years. He's got the looks, talent and charisma to bring a profile to the division. Personally i'd prefer had he beaten 3-4 top 10 fighters before getting in the ring with either man but if he wants to go after them straight away then so be it. But ****ing hell stop acting like the Klits are above fighting him.
     
  11. macho_grande

    macho_grande "I'll never get over" Full Member

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    Hmmmmm, i think Haye deserves credit for giving that fans a fight they wanted to see against Enzo...

    He stated clearly that making the weight was killing him (cue Frank Warren) and i think he deserves our respect for taking the fight....

    Obvioulsy Enzo getting sparked takes some of the gloss of his victory, but he was still undisputed cruiserweight champ...
     
  12. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I did not want to see Haye v Enzo. I wanted to see Haye against some solid cruiserweight which he never fought...unfortunately.
     
  13. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :nono
    That was funny.

    So Ali was not different to how he was when he fought Foreman and Holmes, right?

    Of course he was much better. So stop making excuses for Haye. Barrett was barely making top 40 when he fought Haye.
     
  14. MickeyBlueEyess

    MickeyBlueEyess Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl

    So was Calzaghe a worse boxer at 36 than he was at 26? Not really relevant but just as relevant as you bringing up Ali :nut

    Every fighter is different, and Barrett came into the Haye fight in superb shape and much better mentally.

    So stop making excuses and making out he was soooooooooo much better when he took on Wlad :nono
     
  15. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, Calzaghe was worse fighter at 36 than he was at 26 yet he was the best at his weight class. He picked the right time to retire.

    Barrett came into Haye's fight barely making top 40. He has seen much better times though.