Does ESPN regret wasting money on Fury yet?

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  1. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Top 100 heavyweight otto wallin but down on the gumshield, marched forward and smashed 7 bells out of Fury and left him bloodied and fortunate not to take an 0

    Fury hit wallin with the kitchen sink and couldn't hurt him. He was swinging from the floor full extension full power and they were bouncing off. Fury fans say Fury doesn't hit hard because he doesn't set his feet. Well he did vs Wallin and his shots still had absoloutley no power on them whatsoever.

    Wallin ended the myth of Fury having ANY power. He has NO power at all.

    Wilder went slightly off balance in the 12th because he was DOG gassed. He has nothing to worry about in a rematch which is why fury is the one who ran.
     
  2. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Wallin threw all night with very little defence and took every punch fury possibly had flush square on the chin and wasn't concerned in the slightest
     
  3. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    sometimes you just have to appreciate the nativity, kids they just know any better yet. They do sometimes learn though.

    If Fury has no power then Wilder has no chin, Wilder got desperate in the final round and landed on Fury. Simple as that, if you really think that Fury has nothing in his punches why did Wilder wait til he was way behind on the cards and in the last round to, just ignore his punches and and start throwing wildly.

    I really dont know why I waste my time dealing with either trolls on here or just complete mongs.
     
  4. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so why didnt Wallin "gas" is this you admitting that Wilder has a very poor engine? Wallin could do for 12 rounds of which Wilder could only do for half a round?

    Unless of course Wilder wasnt gassed and was actually hurt?
     
  5. TonyHayers

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    The debate about whether Fury ran from a rematch or not is one that is quite hard to answer. If as has been said he’s in a contract for two more fights with Wilder it seems odd to delay the inevitable. If there was any scope in terms of building Fury’s profile via knockover fights then that just hasn’t happened. Business was so poor for Schwarz and Wallin that he’s had to go to wrestling to drum up interest and a few quid.

    I’m still not sure I buy the all time great stuff as anything more than a bit of a wind up. The Klitschko win was an excellent result but it’s become so overrated. I’m not saying Fury’s had a lucky career but consider the following: change absolutely nothing about his career so far apart from:

    Loses the McDermott fight with a card around 96-94.
    Loses the Klitschko fight via MD, Wlad being given a narrow win.
    Ref stops the Wilder fight after Fury has been down for four seconds.

    None of those would be particularly contentious. And if they happened nobody would really rate him.
     
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  6. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Because Wilder came into the ring angry and worked up and forgot his boxing and simply threw single right hands most of the fight and was totally gassed out. Poor tactics.

    Wilder knows the absoloute WORST thing fury can do to him is land 2 more jabs than him per round. That is worst case scenario. He takes 20 more flicky jabs than fury over the fight.

    Worst case scenario for Fury is Wilder knocks him out cold. Again. But this time his head crashing into the canvas doesn't snap him awake. Which is quite likely.

    Hence fury is fighting top 100 bums and wrestlers while Wilder wanted the rematch
     
  7. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the wrestling thing is a smart move to be fair, he was limited to what he could do whilst the cut heals properly so might as well make a few quid at the wrestling and still keep the body ticking over
     
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  8. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this is laughable it really is ... its cos he was angry !!! thats a new one.... care to answer the other question that was posed to you?
     
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  9. notjustacasual

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    What question why was Wilder gassed and wallin wasn't?

    Well wallin was gassed, his work rate dropped off in the last 2 rounds, because he's a club fighter luckily for pillow fists fury

    And I've already explained why Wilder gassed, because of poor tactics of loading up a right hand and missing all night except the one time he did land and knocked fury out cold.
     
  10. pow

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    Fury suffered a freak cut in round 3 and the fight should have been stopped. We all know why it was not stopped. Despite having a double cut above the eye from round 3 and not being able to see out of 1 eye (there was huge amounts of blood throughout the fight) Fury won almost every round and gave Wallin an absolute beating. Wallin was black and blue in the post fight interview. You could give Wallin 3 rounds at most and he should have had a point off for cheating. The US press viewed the fight as a massive success for Fury in which he overcame significant adversity and showed he had unbelievable heart and determination to get through anything. It's only the Brit bashing trolls with ulterior motives who saw it for anything else.
     
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  11. Twentyman

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    Wallin lost the fight, remember, so it didn’t work.

    He had started slowly which isn’t unusual really, a lot of world class fighters give away a few early rounds and have a look at their opponent. Fury was sloppy, got caught and ended up with a terrible cut that changed the whole context of the fight. He had to play catch-up on the early rounds he had given away and he also had to get him out of there in case they stopped the fight and went to the scorecards. So he bit down on the gumshield and fought on the front foot.

    That above is a more balanced opinion and not agenda driven like yours. He’d have probably lost the fight had it been in another country as they would have stopped the fight on the cut. This is boxing, and heavyweight boxing at that so anything can happen.

    He’s a really classy fighter though when he’s switched on and this idea you just walk through his shots is just daft. He uses his footwork and lateral movement to move out of trouble and counter. His jab has made fighters including Chisora quit. Whilst he’s not a big puncher, he’s an heavyweight and anyone can starch anyone. Ruiz isn’t a big puncher either but that doesn’t mean he can’t hurt you...and so can Fury.
     
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  12. notjustacasual

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    Ruiz is prime George foreman compared to Fury.

    I'd take the chisora win more seriously if, you know, it wasn't chisora.
     
  13. delboy82

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    So wallin was able to throw for 10 rounds and Wilder could only do that for half a round. You have already admitted that Wilder didnt just come out throwing like Wallin did. You have already admitted that Wilder gassed in the last round after doing what Wallin did.

    You havent thought this one through at all have you? So to summarise according to notjustcasual:

    Wilder needs to come out and press and throw more punches just like Wallin did and he will KO Fury easily. However Wilder cannot do that for 12 rounds cos if he does he will gas like he did in the 12th rounds when he decided to come forward and throw more punches.

    Some people just open their pipehole and ramble whilst completely forgetting what they previously wrote to other people.

    Wilder needs to work the body, he needs to take the legs away from Fury and restrict his upper body movement. This is how he then in turn finds the head, when Fury is easier to tag. Otherwise Fury jabs his head off again and spins and moves out all night forcing Wilder to miss badly again all night, Wilder might be able to land that punch if he doenst do what I say however that wasnt enough for him the first time.
     
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  14. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Lol "unbelievable heart and determination"

    It was otto wallin mate, otto wallin.

    He had life and death with a club fighter, and it wasn't a freak cut otto wallin caused It by smacking fury in his "defensive genius" bonce
     
  15. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Fury didnt "jab his head off" did he

    Fury landed like 2 extra jabs a round

    Wilder jabs landed 40

    Fury jabs landed 46

    6 more jabs

    One extra jab every 2 rounds

    "Oh yes, tyson fury, he jabbed his head off"

    Fury fans are something else mate, Ali vs Terrell is boxing someone's head off, fury just weasels his way through rounds off one extra jab that ain't boxing someone's head off.