Does every fighter get some sort of brain damage?

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  1. kirk

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    Hoya
    Mosley
    Cotto
    Wlad
    Mayweather



    I mean... hoya, mayweather, mosley have all been getting punched in the head since they were KIDS...

    just think... of all the amature fights, of all the SPARRING, of all the pro fights...

    Fights dont need to be tito/vargas or benn/gman style to create braindamage.. i mean they are constantly getting punched in their brains..

    yet none of these guys show any signs.. of course we dont know what they deal with behind the scenes but still.

    Guys like Wlad, Cotto... i mean, cotto has been wobbled numerous times, every time your wobbled that is your brain being hit hard enough to the point that your losing your ability to keep your balance.

    and wlad has been stopped 3 times....

    now these guys arent usually guys that would come to your mind when you think of brain damage... they are the faces of boxing at the moment, and thats the reason i picked them... certainly even THEY have some sort of damage?
     
  2. Lampley

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    There are numerous studies out there about this. I think I read one where 70% percent of professional fighters (now sure how they defined that) had some obvious brain damage, but in most cases you wouldn't necessarily be able to tell it. And then there are the all-too-frequent, tragic deteriorations of mental acuity.

    That's why I always favor guys taking big fights and cashing out at a relatively young age. Lennox Lewis got it right, Kosta seems to have gotten it right. And then you have some guys, such as George Foreman, who seem to be impervious.
     
  3. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    i think it probably manifests itself later in life.
     
  4. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would say yes, sadly (and I fight too), but maybe someone can post a more researched response. :good
     
  5. ocelot

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    Yep, each ko is a concussion. Multiple concussions damage the brain. But symptoms generally don't present themselves until later in life. It's called pugilistic dementia, I believe. It's anybody's guess who will suffer from this later on, but the odds are much higher if you've suffered multiple kos or many, many years of taking shots to the head.
     
  6. Lampley

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    Here's a blurb from a study way back in 1984:

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    [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif] Eighteen former and active boxers underwent neurological examination, EEG, computed tomographic scan of the brain, and neuropsychological testing. Eighty-seven percent of the professional boxers had definite evidence of brain damage. All the boxers had abnormal results on at least one of the neuropsychological tests. Brain damage is a frequent result of a career in professional boxing. [/FONT]
     
  7. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    :lol::lol:

    Big George...you gotta love him.
     
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    God... guys, that is so depressing to me.... i agree with you lampley im glad to see fighters leave early.
     
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    :-(
     
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    There's no arguing with the data. :dead
     
  11. Lampley

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    Another:

    Dementia Pugilistica

    Dementia pugilistica is a neurological disorder caused by repeated blows to the head, resulting in brain trauma.

    Boxers, in particular, are prone to the type of sustained head trauma associated with dementia pugilistica.

    Among members of the boxing profession, the onset of dementia pugilistica occurs on average at around sixteen years following initial exposure to repetitive head trauma.

    The symptoms of dementia pugilistica include dementia, characterized by loss of cognitive function, and Parkinson's disease, a neurological disorder characterized by tremor and muscular rigidity.

    Dementia pugilistica is also known as:
    • boxer's syndrome
    • chronic traumatic encephalopathy
    • punch-drunk syndrome.
     
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    Muhammed Ali.
     
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    That is very dangerous.It means swelling of the brain. Bad bad news for anybody let alone a boxer who sufferes repeated head trauma.
     
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    how many fights you have axe?

    ive been in a lot of street fights from when i was 17 to about 20.... and there were about 3 rough fights in a row for me against bigger guys, and one of them was in the dark, where the light that was lighting the fighting area was behind him... so i couldnt see the punches coming, and was just blasted with a few good shots that was almost like if you were to close your eyes and getting punched cuz i had no clue when they would hit.. and then another one where a guy who outweighed me a good 25lbs cought me on the top of the head with a haymaker... and black gobs went into my eyes..

    in each case i got da ja vu and saw lights... and then ever since i just was a bit differant, and when i would move my eyes around, like say... reading a book thats in my lap, its like fireworks would shoot off in my eyes the way it looked...

    but at any rate... i didnt fight for a few years, and im pretty much back to health and dont have any eye issues or brain function issues... because thats another thing that would happen is like... i would have these episodes where i was just... stupid... and things that i should be able to see and get the whole picture i could only focus on one thing at a time... and it was so unatural and weird to me that i knew there was a problem.

    but thats all gone now... so im glad. but it scared me for my future in boxing more then anything... and made me aware of the damage these guys take.