Does Ezzard Charles have the best list of scalps of any fighter?

Ali has a better list of scalps IMO, even if you remove foster and williams from his record which you feel 'pad it up'....

 

People always want to mention Langford but you don't see too many mentioning Harry Wills unless they are bashing Dempsey.

Let's look at how he did vs. Jeanette, Langford, and McVea-

vs.

Joe Jeanette- 1-0-2

Sam Langford- 14-2-1 (2) ....he was stopped by Langford twice (LKOby14 and LKOby19) but he also stopped Langford twice (KO6 and KO7 in back to back fights).

Sam McVea 2-2 (1) 1NC

17-4-3 (3) 1NC in 26 fights vs. these men!

He also beat Fred Fulton, Willie Meehan, Luis Angel Firpo, and many others.

87-10-5 (54) 5NC overall. He was stopped just 5 times in 107 fights.

At 6'2", a 75" reach, and a solid 210-215 Lbs. he was well suited to compete in the modern era. I'm tired of guys not getting credit just because they didn't fight in 2 or 3 weight divisions.

 

Sam McVea or McVey or MacVea was a hell of a fighter as well. 5'11" with a 75" reach and carried up to 215-220 Lbs. quite well.

65-16-12 (47) 3NC overall. He was stopped, mostly toward the end of his career. As mentioned above he went 2-2 1NC vs. Wills. He also-

went 0-3 vs. Jack Johnson, went 2-2-2 vs. Joe Jeanette, and went 2-6-6 vs. Sam Langford...

 

:thumbsup

 

Took almost over two pages but I'd agree with this Langford has the best resume followed by Greb and Charles. They're clearly top three for me in that regard, very close between them.

 

+1 for Langford. Who else has a p4p run of fighters from lightweight to heavy?

 

Langford beat like 13 good fighters. The thing is he fought each of them roughly 49 times a piece.

 

You're critically underrating Belfield Walcott and Ed 'Bearcat' Wright.

 

..i don't see how anyone could say ezzard charles was just a light heavyweight for one year. starting with his tw fights with joey maxim he weighed 165. he couldn't make 160 any more so that makes him a light heavy. he was a light heavy for 6 years...(i'm throwing out the years he weighed like 179 or thereabouts ) and he had 26 fights at that weight even though he was fighting heavyweights...he was still a light heavy.

 

Yes A, during those days [1940s], there were truly only 8 divisions in boxing .The middleweight division limit was 160 pounds. Anything over 160 lbs. was considered lightheavyweight territory. Ezzard Charles therefore was a lightheavyweight, until he went beyond the 175 weight limit, which
he then became a heavyweight. This is probably the reason Greb, Walker, Armstrong, Burley,etc. were so successful in fighting bigger men, as there were more than 10 pounds leeway in each division,excluding the heavyweights...Those oldtimers had to sink or swim against bigger and stronger men...

 

Which brings us to... yes, there are way too many weight divisions in boxing. Make HW 215 + and everything else will fall into place. Boxing could still get away with 8 or 9 divisions to be honest but it will never happen.

MMA (not a big fan) weight classes aren't bad-

BW- 135
FW- 145
LW- 155
WW- 170
MW- 185
LHW- 205
HW- up to 265

 

Sam Langford ...

Jack Blackburn
Joe Gans
Joe Walcott
Stanley Ketchel
Jack O'Brien
Harry Wills
Gunboat Smith
JIm Flynn
Sam McVey
Joe Jeannette
George Godfrey
Tiger Flowers
Kid Norfolk

 

he, perchance, you omitted #1 Harry Greb. You deserve one demerit !atsch