Does Floyd deserve to go down as an ATG?

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  1. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Didnt Floyd beat his gf or something??

    So technically he is 51 and 0???
     
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  2. Max Thunder

    Max Thunder Proud member of the Cult of Vikings Full Member

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    I'd say he's a decent journeyman.
     
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  3. SnatchBox

    SnatchBox Boxing Full Member

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    Easy Top 10
    I rank Robinson & Ali ahead of him though
     
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  4. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Me neither,I’ve never got the hate personally,probably cause I’ve never expected anything other than his money persona which is very shallow but I love listening to him talk about boxing as he’s undoubtedly a boxing genius and yes he’s an all time great for sure.
     
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  5. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol
    well it’s a good job we don’t judge em on that then isn’t it,Ali came across as a swine outside the ring.
     
  6. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Shame though I’m sure he’d of beaten both anyways
     
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  7. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    this. Possibly the greatest defensive boxer and ring IQ of all time. But as person a complete ****.
     
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  8. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Floyd has achieved legendary status. He's passed ATG status. Ayo where's Benitom Zak and Rico at fat boy Don!!!???
     
  9. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    You must list fighters from top to bottom. ATG is NOT the highest honor in boxing. Being called a "legend" is......and Floyd is a legend. Pac is an ATG, and Hearns is great. That's the order.

    1. Legend
    2. ATG
    3. Great

    Example(s) of:
    Legend: Moore, Robinson, Leonard, Duran, Floyd, Ali, Armstrong, Louis, Pep, Sweatpea

    ATG: Pac, Foster, Mike Spinks, Tyson, Lewis, Ward, Monzon, Hagler, Chavez, Pryor

    Great: Wlad, Hearns, Foreman, Griffith, Holmes, Holyfield
     
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  10. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Trinket Holder.
     
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  11. Boxingfan200

    Boxingfan200 USYK #1 P4P banned Full Member

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    ali was 100x times better a man then Floyd outside the ring lmao... don't even try to compare them.
     
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  12. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Even with how shitty the last half of his career was he's got a better record than all but about fifteen fighters. If you are really sold on the old guys who don't have footage you might push him back to the mid-twenties area. But there is no denying his greatness. Opportunities were there for him to make a case for #1 but he never took them, and he'll go down as the second best fighter of the 2000s but top 2 of a decade is still pretty great. When you look at the top 2 of each decade it's some really rare company Robinson, Moore, Charles, Ali, Jofre, Jones Jr, Whitaker, Duran, Monzon, Greb, Armstrong, Leonard, Leonard, Louis, Hagler. He deserves to be in their company.
     
  13. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A ridiculous question. No doubt!!!
     
  14. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    I have to seriously question how long you have watched the sport if you think floyd ducked williams or margo.


    But especially williams as floyd ducked martinez after he said he wanted the winner of that fight. And after martinez left pwilliams laid out floyd never bought up martinez
     
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  15. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    No, Floyd is not an ATG for the same reasons I said Manny and RJJ aren’t either. Modern boxing no longer has same day weigh ins, 12 round championship fights instead of 15 and multiple belts in more weight classes. A lot of the old greats had twice as many knockouts as modern guys have total fights. In Floyd’s case, as well as Manny, RJJ and others, have too many legitimate PED accusations against them. Floyd is also known just as much for ducking as he is for his boxing brilliance. It was said of Floyd that he ducked so many top opponents that every time he opened his mouth we expected to hear him quack. Not only that, but for all of his ultra cool “Money” persona, both Brian Kenny and Larry a Merchant almost made him cry. Can you imagine little old Larry Merchant saying to any other ATG in history, “If I was 50 years younger I’d kick your ass!”? ...or needing to? That was classic. Floyd’s also a stutterer- that’s an immediate disqualification from ATG status.
    Floyd is a modern day great fighter who is a worthy first ballot hall of famer, to be sure. But no, he’s not an ATG.