Does Floyd deserve to go down as an ATG?

Yes, he refused Olympic style drug testing just like all pro boxers. Mayweather has never done Olympic style drug testing in his pro career, he was never even tested by VADA, only USADA. Probably because USADA does not report full test results to state governing athletic committees and they also do not employee carbon isotope testing, which is the most effective drug test. And of course because Mayweather could dictate terms of testing to USADA and tell them testing could only begin once the fight was announced. This delay could allow Mayweather to use PEDs for the months leading up to fights without risking being caught. For example, Mayweather did not officially announce the match with Andre Berto until 39 days before the fight. News of the fight date had leaked several weeks earlier.

Fluid Salineweather Jr. = 100% PED cheat

 

It was already proven that Pacquiao used the sauce, end of story. There's a reason he refused testing UNTIL 2015. Why did he do it in 2015 then? LMFAO

We've been through this?

Manny's legacy is forever tainted by using peds through his ENTIRE CAREER!!!

 

Yeah and Pac got knocked unconscious for 4 minutes lmao while on HGH lmao.

 

Most of Pacs fans are well versed in calling Floyd a cheat but can’t even muster up a guess as to what he took lmao. Saline I guess lmao.

 

if someone says something you don't like they are a troll? I suppose so. Fact is I wanted that fight as a fan for many years and it didn't happen. And Manny fought guys like Margarito when Floyd never would. Floyd handpicked guys like Guerrero and Manny 6 years after he should have. He handpicked many hall of famers at the right time.. It was obvious. That is his legacy..

 

Lol what?

Beat Benitez and Duran, two ATGs right there and beat Virgil Hill at LHW, an ATG 175 pounder 30 pounds from Hearns original weight class. Also should of had a W vs Leonard in their 2nd fight.

You have Whitaker as a legend, who did he beat that triumps Hearns resume? And how does does Foster, Ward, Pryor and Tyson rank ahead of Hearns? Do you even know who Thomas Hearns is, have you studied his career? I’m truly baffled by your rankings, they don’t make any sense.

 

You're spewing false facts on purpose, so yes that's trolling.

Please answer me this

Why did he make all the excuses in the world in 2009 for not testing, then do that same test in 2015 LMFAO.

He said it would weaken him to the point where he couldn't fight

What changed?

No one has been able to answer that. Until people can give a reasonable response, there's no doubt in my mind that Pacquiao was scared and using drugs.

Pacquiao's resume has been tarnished by always fighting guys at Catchweights, over the hill, green, and he was using drugs. Massive drugs.

 

He s an idiot. I mean Hearns wins over Benitez and Hill are better than any single win in Mayweathers career. And stack up against any win on Whitakers career as well. Not to mention he took Hagler and Leonard to the brink. This guy has no idea what he's talking about like you said.

 

Tommy’s ko losses count also.

 

So says the guy who says Barrera beats Floyd at 130, lmao.

 

I have followed this sport for years. I can hear anything and stories can be told, but I know for a fact Floyd could have made that fight happen if he wanted it, and he didn't for many years. Then he is at a Miami Heat basketball game and somehow that is the genesis for the fight happening? It was that easy to see him at a fight later on, but not before that? Floyd is the one who called Manny over. It was Floyd's call always, and that is when he wanted to fight him after Manny got older, knowing that the fight would be easier, but the names would be very marketable. As for trolling. The definition of trolling I do not understand, but that is something I heard on the internet, and never before it. I just say what I feel and it is very simple. I think people hear something they do not want to hear and use the trolling definition to negate what the person is saying. I suppose it works. But my opinion is still that Floyd is not a real ATG fighter. I think Floyd handpicked older fighters at the right time and he is a very smart and patient guy, so he was willing to play the game and he did well in his gambles. But to say he is a high rated ATG fighter. No. Impossible. You cannot handpick the big fights at the right time with the objective of making money and flaunting it. He would rather flaunt the money than fight a great fight or two and prove he is a warrior which is required for a great fighter.

 

Stop lying to posters, and your reason why he is not even an atg is just about embarrassing, lmao.

 

50-0. 4 division lineal champion. 5 division champion. Without a doubt. Top 25 ATG without question

 

Stop making up facts, the only reason why the fight was FINALLY made was because Pacquiao's stardom was dying down and Bob Arum wanted to milk him for all he's worth.

If you can't see that, I can't help you.

Floyd TRIED to make the fight from the getgo, Pacquiao never wanted it

The only person who kept handpicking was PEDQUIAO, who of course never had any true legitimate atg victories.

 

Not out of the question as Floyd's never beat anybody as good as a prime Barrera.