Does Floyd Have a Better Chance Against Leonard or Duran?

Wrong on top of another wrong.

Floyd has already surpass Duran's resume. You go and look at their first 18 fights and tell me who accerated to the top faster? Who padded their record? Who lost to people that they shouldn't have, and whose dominance was longer?

Duran having a bigger pro record included more bums.
The Guys that Floyd fought in amatuer were better than some of Duran's bums. Floyd fought 160+ amatuer and competed in the Olympics. Duran didn't. So who really fought more?????????

Duran fought those "great" competition is expected bc they were in the same weight class and same size so HOW MUCH CREDIT SHOULD YOU GIVE TO ONE PERSON FOR FIGHTING HIS PEERS?

The amount of mindless idiotic posters on this site is ridiculous. Anyone thinks i make this stuff up should do some research and prove me wrong. give me a challenge on this debate. Paste their fights on here from boxrec if you want to see who fought better opposition.

Think for yourself and wake the **** up.

If you want to stay dumb then by all means go ahead but if you post nonsense i will call u out. Idiotic post irrates me.

 

Nothing is more irritating than a Floyd defender saying that someone like Duran padded his record ! I find that hysterical ! And Floyd has a a better resume than Duran ? You want me to wake the **** up ? Duran's win over a prime Leonard is better than any one win of Floyd's !

And you said Duran fought more bums really ,you think Floyd would have fought over 5 decades? I mean this isn't even an arguement ..All time Duran is in the top 10 where is Floyd ranked yet you want to talk about how Floyd has surpassed Duran's resume There is nothing more annoying than Floyd defenders who like to fluff up one of the most PADDED records in the history of boxing !


There is only one thing that Duran and Floyd have in common ,they both have retirements ,the diffrence is Duran had to retire because he was nearly killed Floyd retired because he needed a few fighters to age to face them ! Call me out all you want there is nothing more irritating than a Floyd defender trying to compare him to the likes of a top 10 all time great like the Hands of Stone !


Its easy to dominate when you pick and chose who and when to fight !

 

Floyd has a better resume than Duran now, ffs I've really heard it all now atsch.

 

I'm not intentionally trying to defend FLoyd. I am just stating the facts. Also i'm not saying Duran didn't fight good opposition but i'm just correcting folkes who stated oh look at Duran 65-0 record that FLoyd can only dream of. I corrected that fool for making **** up, so blame him not me for making me dig up the truth. Don't twist it like i'm some kind of Duran hater it is not my intention. Like i said. If anyone thinks that i'm wrong, just do the research and you will realize. Put the stats up. If you really want to debate. ur opinion of Floyd "picking his fights" is just your opinion. Put their records side by side if you want i'm game.

Everyone big name pick and choose, don't go on that path.

 

I never took you as a Duran hater if it came off like that my bad ..But the 2 can't be compared ..Did Duran fight bums ,yes every fighter who's ever laced up a pair has fought a bum at one time..But had Floyd fought with the consistancy as Duran did in his prime he would not be undefeated thats for sure ..I mean he barley beat Castillo ,imagine he had fought 3 Castillo's in the same year..Thats all ..I can't even put Duran and Floyd in the same league let alone the same sentence .

 

He doesnt have a chance against either one.

And he probably gets stopped by both.

 

i'm glad to hear that u know i'm not hating on Duran.

The Fact is Floyd has fought less bums despite the haters are accusing him of. He got a title in his 18th fight so HOW MANY BUM COULD HE FIGHT???? and during his climb to the top he was jumping and leaping up in class in a hurry. He didn't do what most pros do and fought A LOT of no hopers. Main reason of bc of his extensive amatuer pedigree. Duran didn't have that type of background so he fought more no hopers.

Duran fought SRL, good for him for fighting another great fighter but it doesn't mean Floyd didn't. He fought as many championship fights as much as his regular fights. 22 championship, either he took the crown or defended.

He barely beat Castillo is bc he was injured. He beat him comfortably on the rematch and Castillo beat everyone at 135 at the time so there is no reason to put castillo down as a weak opp.

 

First of all Mayweather couldn't KO Duran if he wanted to, and show me one fight were Duran was scared of a counter-puncher who couldn't hurt him, I don't need 5-10 but one would be nice.

And assuming you know as much as you say you do about boxing, then you'd know the way to slow down someone who's going to try and move throughout the fight is to punch to the body.

And watch Duran - Moore if you want to see someone try and escape from Duran. He spun him around and literally threw him against the ropes and simply wouldn't let him escape. Now I know Floyd's miles better than Moore but the beating Duran put on him was really one for the ages. He destroyed a younger, perhaps faster, bigger fighter, with absolute ease.

Watch SRL against Duran too. He tried to do basically the same thing you're telling me Mayweather would do. But someone better than Mayweather, namely SRL, was unsuccessful at it.

 

This is almost funny it's so ridiculous. Now IF Floyd had beaten a prime ODLH and a prime Mosely then I'd say it was close, but the versions he beat were way past primes, and personally I don't think he could beat either one of the them in their primes.

Too many posters are focused on that "0" he has and not enough attention is being paid to who he fought and how he beat them.

 

I really believe thats the culture of today and the boxing fans of today .I was in the barbershop and these young cats were talking about Floyd and all I kept hearing was " he's undefeated ,he's undfeated " ..Not one of them cared to know who the opponents were or where they were in their career !

 

You want so research you got it. This came

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http://coxscorner.tripod.com/duran.html



Duran’s reign of terror over the lightweight division had begun. Duran proved to be a fighting champion defending the title 12 times and engaging in 20 non-title bouts during his tenor as 135-pound champion. His lone loss was in a non-title fight against boxer-puncher and left hook artist Esteban DeJesus. Duran was dropped in the first round and lost a 10 round decision on points. In a rematch Duran evened things up winning by knockout in the 11th round of a title defense. Duran dominated their title unifying rubber match winning with a convincing 12th round knockout.

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By the time of the third DeJesus fight Duran had developed into something really special, a throwback to the days of the great fighters of the past. He was at the peak of his powers in becoming one of the greatest fighters of all time in combining toughness and polished boxing skill. The one time street fighter was an artist. The Jan. 30, 1978 Sports Illustrated stated, “Moving fluidly and jabbing, slipping punches and countering rather than swarming over DeJesus, he stalked him, relentlessly wearing him down and coolly destroying him with savage punches to the body. For 11 rounds Duran bested the classic boxer at his own game, robbing him of his speed and his will to fight, and only then did he permit himself the luxury of putting DeJesus away.” Duran proved that he had learned pace and how to apply strategy in the ring. The old masters would have approved.

Angelo Dundee said of Duran (SI Jan 30, ’78) “One gets the impression of Duran is that he’s a tough, rough brawler who just wades in and ducks nothing. But all you have to do is look at his face to see that is nonsense. He’s not marked up. He does a lot of cute things in there.”

Duran has been very under-rated defensively by some analysts. He had good head movement, slipped punches, and got angles on his opponent’s inside. When he slipped those punches he would always be in punching position to land power shots with full balance and leverage. When he was hit he would usually roll with the punch to reduce its effectiveness. He would usually parry an opponent’s jab when he was going to rush inside. Duran was also a master at feinting.

He would feint with the lead right and if his opponent’s would lean back, which is a popular tactic amongst modern boxers, they would expose their body and Duran would cleverly switch his attack with a left hook counter to the liver.

Duran beat former welterweight champion Carlos Palomino, who was a solid 147-pound fighter, on a 10 round decision on June 22, 1979. Palomino commented (SI Jun. 16, 1980), “He’s good inside, very good, strong physically. The one thing that surprised me the most was his quickness. And his defensive ability. He moves his head a lot, feints a lot. He’s not an easy man to hit.”

Duran’s trainer Ray Arcel noted, “Duran knew how to fight. He knew what to do. If he looked at the corner the only thing I ever had to do was pretend to jab, once he was using his jab I knew he’d have no trouble. Even more important he knew how to think. When you talk about great fighters, always remember there was a guy named Roberto Duran. He was never given the opportunity to really display his wares because at his peak, he was overshadowed by Muhammad Ali.”

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Duran’s biggest victory was his brilliant title winning effort against then unbeaten Sugar Ray Leonard for the world welterweight championship. In a bout that featured ferocious infighting by both men Duran outworked, out-hustled and yes,
out-boxed Ray Leonard. The June 30, 1980 Sports Illustrated reported, “It was, from almost the opening salvo, a fight that belonged to Roberto Duran. The Panamanian seized the evening and gave it what shape and momentum it had. He took control, attacking and driving Leonard to the ropes, bulling him back, hitting him with lefts and rights to the body as he maneuvered the champion against the ropes from corner to corner.” Duran was relentless as he pressured, mauled, and pounded his way to a unanimous decision.

 

I base nothing on his undefeated status. That is just icing. Believe me it aggravates me when causel fans who know nothing about the sport and claim this so and so is undefeated so they are the best when their not OR the don't know much more behhind the number.

 

So u just provided prove to make ur statement about him being 65-0 look more ridiculous.atsch

 

You speak as if Duran won all his fights by KO or something. Show you one fight....? You think nobody can escape Duran's offense?? There are lesser guys who did it and you think Floyd Jr, who is considered one of the best defensive fighters of all time can't?

 

Wow..you must be a rocket scientist.

First of all, it wasn't me who made that statement about 65-0 it was another poster, and secondly it's a reply to your constant reference about how mediocre Duran's defense was.

Where's that research you keep braggin about dumb ass? (this is way too easy)