I like Cotto and I agree with all of those statements. All I'm saying is.. it's a whole new ball game when you're comparing him to PBF. The smartest, and most skillful fighter in the game. Not to mention the best defense, along with the top three in hand speed P4P
:-( I would have to disagree with this......"Guys like Juan Manuel Marquez and Ricardo Lopez are near perfect in terms of being textbook.":huh guys who have been beat? and beat up? floyd doesnt take any punishment and outclasses his opponents..seems pretty flawless to me.... i thought boxing was hit and not get hit? and from the looks of it..PBF has that down to a TEXTBOOK A++:bbb
Lopez has never been beaten. And Marquez was no more beat up than Mayweather vs Castillo. Either way, losses don't equate to being a better textbook fighter. Too many variables go into losing. There are far less variables in technical textbook technique.
I believe Floyd should work on his offense and improvising. Consider a situation wherein he can't make best use of his superior reactive punching skills and defensive mode - where he will be at? B'sides, I am nobody to say which are Mayweather's technical flaws and this could well be another fake thread and tricky question so that we come to recognise that he has no technical flaws at all...
I would agree with everything here except the part about the longer/taller jabbers. Floyd has usually done very well against long/tall opponents. N'Dou was stopped after Floyd countered his jab with 3 straight rights. For the most part, I haven't seen Floyd have much trouble with anyone's jab. The only time during their fight when DLH had any real success with the jab was round 7 and the beginning of round 8.
Lopez was never beaten, but anyways... Floyd is very technical as I mentioned and epitomizes "hit and not get hit," but he does not fight in a conventional/textbook manner. Marquez does and Lopez did. Both had flawless balance and positioned their hands exactly the way a fighter should. Floyd, on the other hand, employs the shoulder roll defense which is most certainly not textbook. He also backs up in straight lines and often holds his hands low. If I had to show a new amateur fighter how to stand and how to hold their hands, I'd show them a tape of Ricardo Lopez, not Floyd Mayweather. Like I said earlier, the fact that Floyd isn't textbook in his positioning and movement is not a weakness or a problem.
Have you actually seen Ricardo Lopez fight ?. Lopez was never beaten in both his amtuer and pro carreer and as near a perfect technical fighter as you have ever seen.
it was typo in regards to lopez not losing....:blood but what does "stance" have to do with anything???? Boxing is not a uniform sport...each fighter has their own individual style and stance....i mean logic would tell me that the stance/style that PBF uses is a stance i would want to have because it is designed to not take punishment..or get cleanly hit.....so IMO that is TEXTBOOK:happy who cares if a fighter has a text book stance that gets POUNDED or hit easily....:!: :!: :yep
Floyd not text book? how is that? He has great hand speed, the best defense in the game, pin point punching,great footwork, great stamina, and has the best mind in boxing. what more do you need to be textbook. oh, and he has never been seriously hurt or beat either. you can add that to the list too.
I think someone like Hearns would give him most trouble. Good long jab, and good boxing skills, can stalk him fairly well.
Textbook technique is standing straight-up, knees slightly bent, with your hands held high and your chin tucked. It's been this way for years. The shoulder roll defense is not textbook technique despite when properly mastered, helps fighters to hit and not get hit. Jones wasn't textbook, Whitaker wasn't textbook, Calzaghe isn't textbook, Ali wasn't textbook, and neither is Mayweather. He can get away with holding his hands low and sticking his chin out in the air because his exceptional speed and reflexes. Again, I said this isn't a flaw in Floyd's game, just something to point out. Having more textbook technique doesn't necessarilly make a fighter better than another one who is unorthodox. And with Floyd, this is clearly the case.
Technical skills refer to skills that dont rely on physical abilities. You could never use Floyds stance or techniques because you dont have the reflexesand speed to pull it of at best you could ''mimick'' it but you would still be beaten because since you dont have Floyd reflexes and speed you wont avoid being hit. Lopez pure technical skills are better because the dont rely on speed and reflexes but pure basic skills learned in the gym. Teach an amatuer to fight like Lopez and he would do well teach him to fight like mayweather unless he has the handspeed reflexes and overall speed of Floyd he is gonna get hurt. 99 % of the people out there dont have the speed and reflexes to pull Floys style off.
Floyd's style isn't textbook but it occupies about the highest learning curve of them all. That is, when taught to somehow who merely goes through the motions; it won't work very well. Then again when utilized with sufficient competence and extreme discipline it is nearly unbeatable. Besides physical gifts it takes a large amount of mental preparation to condition ones self for that level of control (especially of the nerves and reflexes). Most people would be very reluctant to stand against the ropes with half of their body exposed willingly. Your average fighter has no chance against someone like Floyd who is by all accounts a natural fighter combined with the fact that he has spent a lifetime of hard work and restraint to master it. Simple things like "pressure, pressure, pressure," are easy to say but a thousand times more difficult to execute.