Does Floyd "play" off of the cherry picking theory?

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  1. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    His last "cherry pick" was his first fight up at WW against Sharmba. Everyone else since has been a current titlist, top 5 ranked in the division, and/or future HOF'er.
     
  2. bandeedo

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    and none of them was considered top dog in any division floyd fought them in.
     
  3. Nonito Smoak

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    Baldomir, Mosley, Cotto, Alvarez... All either lineal or #1 in the division that Floyd faced them.
     
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    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    cotto has never been considered top dog above 147, hes not considered top dog now, and hes the lineal champ.
    alvarez would be one, if 152 was a division.
    mosely has been behind pac from the time pac started cleaning house
    baldomir :rofl
     
  5. Imperial1

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    No he actually cherry picks ever since he moved up from 130!
     
  6. punisher

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    Doesn't change the fact that Alvarez was highly regarded as the best JMW. I believe Mosley was considered the #1 WW and #3 p4p at that time he and Floyd fought.
     
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    and that doesnt change the fact that alvarez was forced to weigh less than a jr middle needs to be and pac scared 10 years of life off of shane with just one punch, the same mosely youre saying was considered #1 ww. 1+1 just isnt adding up to 2 for you.
     
  8. Super Hans

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    Actually, Pacquiao was above Mosley at 147
     
  9. Nonito Smoak

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    Baldomir = lineal champ = truest champion of the division

    You can pretend not to remember, but Cotto was The Ring, TBR, and everyone else on ESB's opinion... the #1 JMW entering the Floyd bout. Others who were in the conversation included, well, Sergei Dzinziruk.

    152 is not a division. 154 is technically not a division. Now, 147.1-154 lbs, that is the Junior Middleweight division. Alvarez was #1 and lineal champ of the Junior Middleweight division.

    Mosley was still ranked by many, even most, as being the #1 WW when Floyd fought him (with Pacquiao and Floyd filling out the top three).

    You might not like to hear any of that, but it is what it is.
     
  10. Imperial1

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    Baldimor being lineal champ means squat when he wasn't even the best welter weight in the division ! Just goes to show how overrated that title is !

    And who the hell did Alverez beat to even share the ring with Floyd ? Oh that's right he was exposed by Trout and gifted a decision so that made him credible because he was a " lineal " champ :lol:

    Neither win elevated this guys legacy !
     
  11. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    You probably weren't around back then, but yeah, while everyone had Pac #1 P4P and Mosley #3 at WW, everyone also had Mosley #1 at WW and Pac #2 at WW.

    Therefore, when Floyd beat Mosley, he beat the #1 WW at the time.

    It is why many of us were puzzled that some folks insisted on ranking Pac #1 at WW and Floyd #2 at WW right after the fight. It made no sense whatsoever.
     
  12. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Keep digging.

    Eventually you'll find a winning argument.

    "Lineal title doesn't mean anything" is a sure fine way of having no credibility.
     
  13. punisher

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    Hmm...he was above him P4P. But, he'd only had 2 fight at WW. 1 was a shot Oscar, the other was at 145 against Cotto. But, I checked boxrec. And yes you are correct Mosley was #2 @ WW and the Super WW champion.
     
  14. Imperial1

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    Oh no it's been proven time and time again..lineal doesn't mean the best In the division !I mean can you give me a credible argument where Baldimor was the best WW at the time ?
     
  15. Super Hans

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    Maybe not on this site, but I've been watching boxing for nearly 20 years and don't choose to rewrite history like you to push your Mayweather loving agenda.

    Here is the Ring Welterweight rankings from a month before the Mayweather v Mosley fight:

    [url]https://web.archive.org/web/20100412161710/http://www.ringtv.com/ratings/welterweight/[/url]

    That's not everyone is it Nonito?