Does Foreman survive a Shaver's right like he did against Lyle in rd 1

Yes, George not only survives but he KO's Shavers even faster. Ron Lyle was a better fighter overall than Shavers. He was more skilled and had a better chin.

Not that it totally matters, but BTW, Lyle KO6 Shavers in the fight before Lyle fought Foreman.

 

Agreed. In my opinion '73 Foreman KO prime Lennox in 2 rounds.
Any version of Foreman never feared anyone, not wanting a fight
cause you know you would lose at that stage of your career
is different than fear. But yeah, Foreman got rocked at the end
of the first round. I believe Lyle's power was comprable to
Foreman and Shavers. Lyle admittedly got to the point where
he did 1,000 pushups a day in the joint. Foreman Lyle my
favorite staredown, 2 junkyard dogs in the ring.

 

Before Zaire, quite possibly. Foreman might have got the surprise of his career at that time if a Shavers title defense was thrown in there after dispatching Frazier, Roman and Norton. After Zaire, Foreman said he would die in the ring before being counted out again which is why I think it's harder for Shavers to stop George after Zaire.

Lyle couldn't finish the job and I don't think Shavers does either. I think Shavers could have George in a lot more trouble than Lyle though. I could see Earnie punching himself out knocking down George twice in the 4th or 5th round only to get knocked out himself a couple of rounds later. Foreman is less dangerous for Shavers, being more standup and conventional unlike the smaller, pressure style, hooking fighters like Quarry and Frazier. George was the threat in the 70s of having the most overall heavyweight power even though Shavers' right hand was said by common opponents to be a harder punch.

Shavers vs Foreman could have happened in the 70s had George not fought Jimmy Young and been called by God immediately after to provide ministry. A rematch on George's scomeback trail would have been sweet too. Both times these fights could have been slugfests of epic proportions.

 

George was miles ahead of Shavers and dont forget that the style Foreman used against Lyle wasnt his original championship style. He changed styles after the loss to Ali.
Foreman started to be trained by Gil Clancy who tried to turn George into more of a boxer.
Prime Foreman of the Norton fight would stop Lyle in 3 and Shavers in 2.

 

Prime Foreman, hell yeah, post-Zaire, pre-comeback 80's Foreman, yeah, but not as good.

 

Yes, why wouldn't he? Lyle, Mercado, Berbick, and Holmes all survived it, and went on to beat Shavers's ass.

 

Shaver's power is getting a bit over rated when people think a iron chin guy like Foreman would be counted out imo.

Shaver's can hit hard, but he still have problems with the stronger chin fighters. Power is not everthing.

 

Its funny to me how so many people think Shavers was comparable in punching power and ko prowess as Foreman. Foreman regularly koed top tier competition whereas Shavers couldnt knock out Tex Cobb!

 

Foreman KO'd top guys with arm punches!

 

Ali, Lyle, Norton and Jimmy Young were four common opponents of George Foreman and Earnie Shavers.

They all said Shavers hit harder. There's a big difference between being a puncher and a finisher. We all know punchers can punch, but many can't finish unless they KO an opponent with one punch. Shavers had one punch power in his right and very good power in his left. Foreman has been credited numerously as being one of the greatest puncher/finishers in the sport.

Even though Holmes never fought Foreman in a big money fight, he has repeatedly said that the hardest punch he ever took was from Shavers.

 

If Shavers landed just one right hand on Superman, Superman would faint, **** himself, die and turn into a pillar of salt. Then that pillar of salt would explode and travel backward in time and be reincarnated into a trilobite that would immediately be eaten and finally shat out by an anomalocaris, to be studied by science a million and a half years later as a fossilzed faecal pellet. So, obviously Foreman doesn't survive.
































But, in real life, where Superman and Mythical Shavers don't exist, he would less likely make it out of the first round against Foreman than the opposite. Much less likely. And his super what-if punch , which might land on any number of greats in comic books, won't have the same bite as his real, great as it is, punch. The punch which was actually attached to a generally otherwise fair but historically mediocre contender and did not put to sleep, kill and salt-pillarize anyone with the class+durability of a George Foreman in any round throughout his career. His real career. Not his mythical fantasy ATG career where he's destroying Lewis, and Frazier, and Tyson, and Holyfield, all on a regular basis-or the equivalents to them, of course.

 

Shavers may have hit harder, but Foreman is the better puncher and the better finisher.

The proof is in the results- A string of real, bonafide knockouts against top class, top 5 heavyweights over a 30 year career.

In a shootout, Foreman doesn't even hit the canvas. I'd comfortably predict the Foreman of the Norton fight to dispatch Shavers in 2 rounds with little difficulty.

Earnie Shavers was a decent boxer with a massive right hand and a good left hook. Beyond that, he was damn chinny, had suspect stamina, fought at a low intensity(Watch the way Lyle just burns past him), and could be backed up by boxers(Holmes bullies him).

George Foreman destroys Earnie Shavers. I'll go with the class A puncher with class A whiskers and class A finishing than the Class A puncher who gets C's at best in the other categories.