Does Frochs win over Taylor beat any victory on Calzaghes resume?

No.

 

Plus the Kessler victory definitely overshadows the Taylor victory. Kessler was a big strong undefeated SMW, Taylor came up from Middleweight and was the smaller man. JC looked in control for over half of that fight, Froch didnt look in control until the final two rounds, really.

I think Kessler would destroy Taylor, and probably take Froch to a UD win.

 

What a wonderfully selective way to look at the Hopkins performance. You could say that, despite Hopkins going out of his way to nullify Calzaghe's offence, Joe managed to pull out the win. It was a godawful fight, with Joe being sloppy early and Hopkins avoiding actually fighting late on. Even then, Hopkins battered Pavlik around for 12 rounds in his next fight, which tells you a lot about Joe's performance to even scrape that win.

His best victories are:

Kessler
Lacy
Hopkins
Eubank
Jones Jr

You're wrong about Taylor beating Joe. Taylor doesn't have the fortitude or stamina to keep up with a guy who's always throwing shots at him. Taylor dislikes pressure and, every time he throws, Calzaghe would be firing multiple shots, cutting Jermain up before finishing him through exhaustion.

 

No.

 

No.

 

A big part of judging this is how well Taylor does in future.

Yes Lacy was never the same after the Calzaghe fight and Kessler hasnt been up to much but if Taylor doesnt fight or beat anyone of high calibre now he's not going to look good and it may devalue Froch's victory.

In terms of importance i'd say:

1. Calzaghe vs Kessler
2. Calzaghe vs Lacy
3. Froch vs Taylor

......but what a fight that was!

 

well out of them 5 you got
1 real good un -kessler
1 vastly overated-lacy
1 supergrandad-hopkins
1 past it -eubanks
1 way past it-RJJ

kessler win is by far the best,lacy,well, is well overated,hopkins,only a good win off the back of his win over pavlik
eubanks was well past it,and he giv JC a hard time
and RJJ fight,more of a spar if you ask me,it was a joke fight.

so in my eyes theres only kessler who stands out more on JC record,and ofcourse taylor has beat hopkins and lacy:hey:hey:hey

 

I'd rank the Taylor win equal with the Eubank win. Taylor is 30, Eubank was 31, both were world class at their best but had lost a couple of times previously. Taylor has never proved much at 168, Eubanks 168 pedigree unquestioned but Eubanks was a bit further removed from his best. Froch is in his prime for Taylor, Joe was still green for Eubank. Joe was always winning, Carl showed huge grit to win from behind. Both very good wins and difficult to split in my opinion.

 

its a better win than Jones Jnr.

 

Kessler win was by far JC's best performance ...but lets put this in comparison with Frochs win !

Froch fought away from home , Calzaghe was in cardiff ! ..... Froch fought a fighter who has been in and beaten top quality opponents - Hopkins in his prime and Winky Wright who he drew with !

This was Frochs first defence which makes the performance and enormity of the task even greater - ... fair play to froch this victory was better than any of Calzaghes wins .... it doesnt make him a greater fighter just this shows the character of the man to go stateside against a true world class opponent for a first defence of his world title ... quality Mr Froch may i wish you well cos in this age of boxers ducking big fights froch went out and demanded a big fight to show the boxing world he is the real deal !

In fairness Calzaghe beat a few contenders after Eubank , Lacy may not have been that good anyway , Kessler was a brilliant victory as I believe Kessler could be something special if he ever gets a meaningful fight , Hopkins and Jones were poor fights all in all .. both seemingly over the hill despite Hoppos brilliant victory over Pavlik ....

 

It could be better, he went over to the states as the underdog for his first defence against an opponent more proven than Lacy and even Kessler (although I think Kessler is a better fighter) and much closer to his prime than Hopkins and Jones.

 

No chance , shouldn't even be mentioned as beating Calzaghe's resume .

 

It's funny people like to mention Taylor "beat" Hopkins. I'd like to remind them that Hop beat the **** out of Pavlik, who beasted Taylor. This A B type logic is bull****.

"At the end of the day" Hopkins is a legend of the sport, a top 50 great, and p4p top 5 as we speak. Taylor just ain't.

 

TFFP, your reason and clarity always do make me laugh. In a good way, though.