Does Frochs win over Taylor beat any victory on Calzaghes resume?

What difference does it make?Doesn't make him less of a fighter just because he fought a difficult fight earlier (even though he isn't young) in his career. This shows that Froch will have to fight quality fighters now where Calzaghe could afford to fight poor fighters just for an easy pay day.

 

Froch didn't unify titles either, and whilst I give him credit for going to the U.S. to fight Taylor, his own low profile probably dictated the circumstances. You can't blame Calzaghe for not doing though, there was simply no super middle out there with whom a fight could be made and who was a big enough fight to warrant Calzaghe going abroad for it.

 

I'd have a hard on if an actual fight was announced. It's slim pickings at the moment.

 

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It beats the wins over Jones and Hopkins but not Kessler or Lacy.

 

Ottke didn't want to know.

 

Kessler's better that Taylor I think . I think Hopkins would do to Froch what he done to Pavlik as well .

 

I think it would be a bit harsh on Calzaghe saying that plus I don't think it's true . Froch's fought twice above domestiv level , Pascal and Taylor . Calzaghe's 46-0 , something like 20 plus defences of his wbo belt . Kessler , Hopkins , Eubank , Lacy who Calzaghe ruined . Not to mention the two defeats Taylor had to Pavlik which could have took him out his prime .Kessler was a young undefeated champion so I don't think Froch beating Taylor was as good as Calzaghe beating Kessler so the answer for me is defintley no .

 

Yeah true. But knocking a guy out is a better result than winning a disputed split decision.

 

I think Froch's knock out victory over Taylor is better than anything on Calzaghe's resume.

Despite the H2H's, Hopkins is a better fighter than Taylor, but Hopkins was approaching his mid-40's, and it wasn't a clear or clean win for Calzaghe.

At the end of the day hey) Taylor was a former undisputed champion, who had beaten Hopkins twice. Kessler, Lacy and Tocker Pudwill just don't compare to the level of prestige that Taylor has.

 

"As good as the Eubank win".

Personally I'd rank it below the Kessler and Hopkins wins slightly. If Kessler does nothing, prove nothing of real note, as he continues to do - I think it's possibly fair to move it above that.

 

Taylor lost his "prestige" when Pavlik beat the **** out of him twice. His flaws had been exposed and exploited in previous fights.

Lacy and Kessler were coming in as super confident undefeated champions (and highly fancied to win).

So heres another person trying to downplay the Hopkins win by typing his age.....sigh... why not ask Tarver, Wright and Pavlik if hes past it? Hes still a p4p level fighter and made the fight very ugly..but Calzaghe found a way to win. Credit to Froch for also finding a way to win but it wasnt exactly convincing either.

The win is on par with Calzaghe vs Eubank imo.

 

You can devalue any fighter's achievements if you set out to. Eg - Taylor's entire reputation was built upon two highly disputable decisions against a 40 year old Bernard Hopkins. He achieved nothing else.

 

Eubank wasn't even a top ten contender at the time Joe fought him and took the fight at 11 days notice (could be wrong on that but it was very short notice). How can you compair? People like Steve Collins was saying Eubank was a madman to take the fight. It's insulting to suggest the great victory for Froch over Taylor, in the US, is on a par with Calzaghe's Eubank win.

Speaking of that fight, I watched that fight again the other day actually, it's on You tube. The commentators repeatedly state how past his best Eubank is and expect a reletive unknown to win the fight.

Also, I was quite surprised, they refer to Calzaghe as a light arm puncher, and slapper. They comment on his cuffing style and say its illegal. I was quite surprised to be honest, I didn't remember people making those sort of comments back then - even in his first ever title fight. It's on youtube if you don't believe me, they pass the comments in the first few rounds.

 

Here's part of a newspaper artical from the time

EU ARE MAD!; Collins calls `shot' Chris *******s to fight kid Joe.

Chris Eubank heads back into the big-time branded "a shot fighter" by the man who destroyed him.
Steve Collins reckons Eubank is *******s to take on hungry youngster Joe Calzaghe.
They meet in Sheffield next Saturday night for the WBO super-middleweight world title made vacant by Dubliner Collins' decision to retire from the ring

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-61132871.html