Does Frochs win over Taylor beat any victory on Calzaghes resume?

It's not a good won because Taylor basically beat the sh@t out of him for 9 rounds, made him look like a chump and knocked him down. Froch did nothing special, remember Pascal wasn't even hurt in his fight with Froch and went 12 rounds. Difference being he didn't gas out. Froch is being vastly ovverated. I doubt Taylor will ever win a meaningful fight again. He can't go 12 rounds so this win won't look so good in the future when Taylor achieves nothing more.

 

Taylor has been the championship distance 10 times...a phantom stamina issue is mentioned once by one of the fight commentators and all of a sudden Taylor has less stamina than Fatty McDermot climbing stairs. Its bull**** and just an excuse to degrade Frochs achievement.

 

Anybody know who Eubank was training for, and at what weight, when he took the Calzaghe fight?

 

It was at 175 iirc. And it was Mark Prince.

 

Cheers mate.

So he had to cut an extra 7lb, that's what I was trying to ascertain.

 

Yup. Had 2 weeks to do it. Although many people say he was weight drained Eubank himslef never did. In fact if you look here Eubank was thinking his best chances would come late which doesnt sound like the thinking of a guy that was weight drained...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7015378.stm

Of course at the time JC's stamina was an unknown. Had he known that Joe never has a problem with 12 fast rounds he might have gone with diferent tactics.

 

Bunce get's his name in everywhere

 

The quality of opponent Froch's is taking out is superior and the method of fighting is leaving no room for doubt. We all knew going in that Taylor had some significant advantages in term of speed, athletic talent etc. Froch prevailed and stopped the favoured and more naturally gifted Taylor away from home. That says it all really. The fight before he beat another undefeated talented and hungry fighter in Paschal. I have liked Froch for quite a while and even though he sometimes fights within himself there is an X-Factor there. Had it been him in with Calzaghe instead of Kessler then Calzaghe would not have an unbeaten record that is for sure.

When I look at Calzaghe's career I cannot think of a great fighter or what I would call the real deal e.g. beating such a fighter at their peak the way Marlon Starling destroyed another of my heroes Lloyd "Raggamuffin man" Honeyghan or the manner in which Honeyghan destroyed another favourite of mine the then unbeaten pound for pound Don "the Lone Star Cobra" Curry.

 

Olu,

That is possibly the silliest post you've made. Froch would beat Calzaghe? Calzaghe who has a chin of steel, fights hard for all 12 rounds, uses movement and timing to baffle opponents?

Froch who telegraphs every punch and ONLY caught Taylor because he got tired?

Be realistic here. Kessler would beat Froch, Calzaghe would beat Froch. Froch was woeful against Taylor and his victory was LUCKY. 14 seconds more and he'd have lost the belt.

 

Liam, don't often disagree with you but thats simply not the case.

 

Eubank would have outlasted Taylor and more than likely caught him with a quick counter much earlier on. I could see Eubank stopping a limited fighter like Taylor.

In fact, where has this sudden respect for Taylor come from? Prior to the first Pavlik fight he was acclaimed as being "the worst MW champion of the last thirty years". Which he was. He looked crap against every opponent since Hopkins. Then Froch made him look like a boxing guru because Froch is so dreadful.

 

atsch Name one fighter that Eubank beat other then Benn with any form at top championship level?

 

Worse than Ajose needing to fight PBF for us all to realise how great he is?

 

Eubank is another fighter the Brits got duped into believing was great but without achieving anything. Amazing how tarded the Brit public is most of the time.

 

Do the same for Taylor. He's lost to every body who was conceivably elite or top level, whatever the scorecards say:

Hopkins - lost twice
Wright - lost
Pavlik - KO then by decision

And now the limited, sloppy Froch. yes, great argument you provided there, jeff.