Does Fury Always Defeat Klitschko??

The irony. A klit-**** who thought Fury "barely won" against Wlad is calling me drunk.

 

What sort of a fanatical bum boy are you? Byrd was already washed up in that rematch. Finished. Done. Did you not see him stand center of the ring and catch nuclear bombs with his gloves and face??
Course you didn't cos you have no memory of that fight , or any of his other fights. You just make stuff up to suit your narrative.
Because to call the bones of Chris Byrd a great mover is laughable. He wasn't even a great mover in his prime dummy.
Wlad never had to go looking for him in either fight. . He simply stood out of range and and speared him with straight shots down the middle. Byrd was too small and flat footed to do anything about it.

Chagaev? The only moving he did was in straight into Wlads jab and right hand. As in , he walked head first into everything Wlad threw at him. You don't know anything about that fight.

Chambers was another flat footed 6 foot pudding. A farcical match-up. It was like a light heavy vs a welter. . Still , it took Wlad an embarrassing 12 round and plenty of hugging before he could dispatch a guy Wilder would have creamed in 6.
Brock was another 6 foot midget who did not use the ring. He did however outbox Wlad during the early rounds.

You correct. I redact that claim as Haye was not a good mover at all. He neither had the balance or stamina to move around the ring. His simple and basic upper-body movement was enough to neutralize 80% of Wlads offensive. The signs that Wlad wouldn't be able to land on a guy like Fury were there to see in plain sight all the way back in 2011 when Wlad was bang in his prime.

Wlad vs Pulev played out in a completely different manner to the way you describe it.

Pulev never once rushed in like a bulldog. If you disagree then pull the fight and show me. You won't cos the footage shows Pulev standing in the ring holding his arms up in the air.

There was no movement from Pulev because Wlad took it away with an illegal spongy canvas.

It was actually Klitschko who was doing the bum rushing to avoid being at the end of Pulevs jab.

Wlad would leap in and grapple , maul , grope Pulev until Weeks stepped in. Then on an unsuspecting Pulev , he would launch a sucker attack on the breaks. Those were his tactics he trained for in camp which were enabled by an illegal ring canvas and a corrupt referee. . Wlads dirty tactics were despicable to anybody who could see what he was doing.

Simply put , he would never have the courage to go after Fury at any point in his career. He would bottle it every time as he hasn't the skills nor fighting spirit to overcome somebody as good as Fury. With Fury he would never win a clinch battle or a jab battle. Fury neutralizes everything that made him successful.

 

LOL the Klitschko haters with their fantasy alternative histories

 

The heading of the article is “Does Fury always beat Wlad?”

I have already outlined why this is absolutely ridiculous because of the state that Tyson Fury has turned up to ring in. Some of his previous performances have put him way below Wladimir’s level regardless of styles.

The state he was when British level John McDermott beat him 7-3 or 6-4 on the cards over 10. When he didn’t properly prepare and was well beaten.

Would John McDermott version of Tyson Fury have beaten Wlad Klitschko?

Come on.

This whole thread is a complete farce.

Does Fury *ALWAYS* beat Klitschko means any version of Fury. The answer is clearly no.

1. John McDermott version? No
2. Nicolai Firtha version? No
3. Nevan Pajkic version? No
4. Steve Cunningham version? No
5. Sefer Seferi version? No
6. Fran Pianeta version? No
7. Deontay Wilder 1 version? No

I will fact checking and debunk your latest response later if I can be bothered.

But the thread title question is a farce.

 

Boxing is on the night. Your level is determined by the camp you have had, injuries, your mental state etc...

I have pointed out 7 nights under the lights where Fury was very poor, and Wlad would have beaten him.

That is just an objective fact.

For example, if a crude slugger like John McDermott can beat Fury on the night. Are you honestly claiming that Wladimir would not have also beaten him on that same night too? Please...

 

The thread states "DOES FURY ALWAYS BEAT KLITSCHKO?"

I have given easily enough evidence to show he doesnt. Mainly due to the fact that Fury is very inconsistent. So if they fought 10 times no way in hell would he win all 10 of them. He wouldnt even win 6 or 7 for me. I personally think it would be about even between them if they fought 10 times at random points in each others career.

There are 7 fights there where Wlad would have beaten the Fury that was there that night, and there are more from earlier in Furys career.

So as far as I am concerned that is thread over.

On your questions, and I will answer them so please answer mine.

I agree that the best version of Fury on the night he stopped Wilder would beat Wladimir. But we have seldom seen a version as good as that.

The version of Fury that actually beat Wlad, had that been a Wlad in hs prime. For me it would have been more of a 50/50.
They were evenly matched based on that version of Fury.

 

Says someone who thinks Fury barely beat Wlad

 

Dino has been at this for 15 years now. The only thing you can lose by arguing with him is time.

He's as bad as the Marciano haters that think if they attack every positive mention of someone on a single message forum they are gonna change history.

It's also obvious what you meant by "Fury barely beat Wlad." I agree, a prime fighter outworking a Champion 12 years his senior by a few punches a round is not a dominating victory even if he won 8 rounds. Wlad had been on a slow but steady decline since the Haye fight in 2011, accumulating in a very ugly performance against Jennings prior to Fury. Dino had predicted Wlad would be KOed virtually every fight for a decade. Sad life.

Regardless, given that Wlad was approaching 40, without his long time mentor and trainer, and fighting a prime opponent 12 years younger while conceding height, reach, and weight, and was only out pointed by less than 3 punches a round...he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

And I have supreme respect for Fury and hope he defeats his demons and becomes a great.

 

I am sorry but your post amounts to whole lot of nothing.Fury won that fight comfortably no matter how much you want to spin it.Besides You are defending a guy who is one of the worst posters and biggest Klischko lover on this board.That does not speak for you.