Does GGG have the weakest "RUN" of 160 champs in recent memory?

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    He will have to do a lot more

    Again, let's see what happens.

    What's the point in comparing resumes between a 50 year old fighter who looks as though he's retired, and a 33 year old fighter who's still active?

    It's pointless.
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Bernard hadn't done much at all at GG's current age.

    We'll all have to wait and see how his career unfolds.
     
  3. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    loudon ...I agree its unfair to compare

    but when ggg fans say "well hey look at what Bernard did at mw....by age 33"....I don't think theyre expecting ggg to quite do what Bernard has done on the whole...I think they are feeling like if he does what Bernard did at mw then hell be held in the same regards.....at least that's the vibe I get......I highly doubt ggg is ever going to lhw to compete with some of the top lhws in the world....or fight the best 168 and 175lber like nard did with calzaghe and kovalev.....that alone is better than anything than ggg has done even in losses....

    I agree we don't know exactly what the future holds....but he ducked the best possible fight he could prob make in his career....simply beating bhops mw record and staying there aint gonna get him held in the same regards...I just hope that's not what ggg fans are saying when the reference bernard
     
  4. David HEY!!!

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    Sturm,Quillen(wimp),Geale just to rattle of a few more names.
     
  5. The Shockmaster

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    for ggg to even come close to Hopkins...hed have to fight ward at 168 and then kovalev at 175

    that will never happen

    heck...most of you ggg fanboys are talking about him staying at 160 and just cleaning house because yer afraid of him going up...you had a guy making a thread today saying he should stay lol
     
  6. The Shockmaster

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    yeah dingus...its a thread about him....but I didn't create it...and you still bumped it....h0mo
     
  7. The Shockmaster

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    it went to the top again when you posted....that's called a bump....im sure you are familiar with them.....
     
  8. cuchulain

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    At the same stage of their careers, you could certainly make a case that GGG's MW run has been better, so far.

    Remember, BHop's greatness doesn't rest solely on his MW run.

    His most touted wins at the weight include welterweights Delahoya and Trinidad, one of whom had absolutely no pedigree at MW, and the other had very little more.

    Hopkins reputation rests partly on the longevity of twenty unremarkable defences at MW, but more importantly, his subsequent wins at LHW (and cw) over Tarver, Pavlik, and Pascal at an age when most boxers are in rocking chairs.


    Looking just at the first five years of their respective MW reigns:

    Bernard was 30 yrs old when he picked up his first piece of the title in 1994.

    GGG was 28 when he picked up his first piece of the title in 2010.


    Bernard defended his title eleven times over the following five years, and went 11-0 with 8 KOs against

    Steve Frank
    Joe Lisper
    William James
    John Jackson
    Glen Johnson
    Andrew Council
    Simon Brown
    Robert Allen (twice)
    Antwun Echols
    Syd Vanderpool.


    GGG defended his piece of the title (and unified a second piece) fifteen times over the following five years, and went 15-0 with 15 Kos against

    Kassim Ouma
    Lajuan Simon
    Makoto Fuchigami
    Grzegorz Proksa
    Gabriel Rosado
    Nobuhiro Ishida
    Matthew Macklin
    Curtis Stevens
    Osumanu Adama
    Daniel Geale
    Marco Antonio Rubio
    Martin Murray
    Willie Monroe
    David Lemieux.
     
  9. lefthandlead

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    Hopkins has 2 middleweights on his record that aren't bums.:deal
     
  10. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bruh Hopkins won a REAL Title, Golovkin didn't become an actual Champ until the Adama, Geale fight.
     
  11. QuadrupleG

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    Of course. Everything old black stars were doing was good and real, and everything Golovkin/Kovalev/Klitchko/etc. do if tainted or fake.
     
  12. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hopkins won a piece of the title when he defeated Mercado for the VACANT IBF title.

    He wasn't universally recognized as Champion till after Tito.
     
  13. KO KIDD

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    Taylor only fought 154 lbers and Pavlik had Rubio and that's kinda it

    Martinez had nice wins Golovkin fought some of the same guys but won much easier
     
  14. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Vacant it not Hopkins won a legitimate major title, not a intriem title or a regular title or any of that bullsh!t.

    An intriem Champ isn't a real Champ, is Robert Guerrero a 4 division Champ for winning 2 intriem Titles get real bro.

    GGG won a jv title and didn't become an actual Champ til 2013/14", Hopkins was a legit Champ from the jump.
     
  15. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    He was a title-holder.


    I'm not going to argue any further over this.

    I'm a BHop fan.

    The point is, Bernard did not become universally recognized during his first five years of holding part of the title, and neither has GGG.

    BHop was recognized by the RING as the champion after his 14th 'defence.'

    Gennady's competition over the similar four year period in their careers compares very favourably with Bernard's, despot fools like Scar taking about 'tomato cans' in reference to Murray, Stevens, Lemieux, Macklin etc.