Does Golovkin need to part ways with Sanchez?

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  1. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Golovkin has been as surprised as anyone on how Canelo took his shots. He must be still thinking about their sparring rounds they had where by all accounts he was really hurting Canelo and had to ease off.
     
  2. Jambon

    Jambon Active Member Full Member

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    I tought GGG did block and dodge very in the early rounds. However, he also lacked activity and was being outworked. Golovkin also finished most rounds quite slowly,

    GGG also wasnt able to capitalize and efficiently swarm as he usually does when he opened himself a windows. Is arms looked heavy and instead tired himself and finished most rounds quite slowly. Time as taught me that most boxing judges have a short attention span and no memory. So in close or not so close rounds its important to finish strong.

    So i am more pissed that the fight did not happen sooner and we did not see the calibre of even the first fight. But i have no beef with the decision this time. They accidently scored one right.
     
  3. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He outworked Canelo though that's what's the frustrating thing, if you look at the context of the bout he fought an excellent fight. It's just that Canelo did also and Golovkin couldn't dominate him or really hurt him.
     
  4. ElCyclon

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    He outjabbed Canelo. Canelo did the "outworking" in the rematch. 2 totally different things.
     
  5. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think he did though, Golovkin was still the busier fighter. Canelo did land the more eye catching shots for most of the bout but Golovkin was having a field day with his jab. He also landed plenty of eye catching shots himself and hurt Canelo in the 10th with the best punch of the bout.
     
  6. Alphafighter

    Alphafighter Active Member banned Full Member

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    The sport of boxing says if you land more shots and more jabs on your opponent and throw more than your opponent, you should win. Canelo did not deserve to win either fight and has been unfairly given a win due to boxing corruption
     
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  7. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. The idea that the T is I
     
  8. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. The idea that the trainer is to blame whenever a fighter loses is a joke. The better fighter won on these night and to the pin it on Sanchez is laughable. GGG just came up against a better guy last night.

    To many people expect GGG just to steamroll anyone no matter what. Canelo is elite and whether you thought GGG won either fight the reality is this was an opponent like none other. No matter who the trainer is GGG will always have problems vs Canelo.
     
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  9. prepasur

    prepasur Warrior Spirit Full Member

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    Agree yesterday i saw that GGG failed to feint so he could set up his punches better and i didnt see any situtation where he tried to draw his opponenet so he could counter, a lot of old school fighters did this offensive or defensive ones.

    I think Abel just felt too much into the mexican style meme, im mexican and i think the real mexican style is the one taught by Cuyo Hernandez (RIP) not this face first action style brawler **** that gets forced by the media nowadays.
     
  10. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Sanchez said after the fight, he wanted GGG to fight Canelo but he chose to box him....
     
  11. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That would have been dangerous though and as tough as Golovkin is I don't think he would win a slugfest with Canelo. Canelo was much faster and a way better inside fighter. Golovkin doesn't seem to carry that power when up close.
     
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  12. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep that could very well be the case but when you hear Sanchez constantly begging for Canelo to not run and trade that tells me something is wrong.

    Of course we are in a business here, Sanchez is not going to claim Golovkin is shot prior to the biggest payday of his career.
     
  13. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    I agree. Here'e the thing from my POV. GGG's skills were always based on an incredible judgement of distance; being just out of range when attacked, just in range to land. His cutting off the ring meshed with that perfectly, as did his power, by launching attacks from precisely the distance he wanted to hit as hard as he could. In his two fights with Canelo, his body punching was almost nonexistent, a punch which is only safe to throw at the right time, again closely linked to timing and footwork.

    To me, if you want to look at GGG now compared to his peak - and parking the fact Canelo is clearly his best ever opponent and was able to some extent nullify through skill - you see he's lost that edge of speed, feet and hands, and everything he was renowned for becomes disproportionally diminished - it was a knife edge style. That makes choosing to fight a riskier option so he chose the box, where the margin for error is greater. He nearly pulled it off but I have no beef with the judges. It was close.

    The fighting style for which he is famous does not age well and he's fighting elite opponents three years too late. That's a pity because we'll never know how good he could have been when his peak was wasted on the likes of Matthew Macklin.
     
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  14. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Sanchez and GGG genuinely believed they could ko Canelo. They thought Canelo trading meant more opportunities for GGG to land big. To me they underestimated how good Canelo was fighting in the pocket. They didn't appreciate his body punches or his stamina.
     
  15. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Golovkin could feel the body shots in their first bout IMO, I don't think he's all that tough downstairs.

    Whatever the reasons they both got it wrong, I think I've just got to accept Golovkin hasn't got the ability to stop Canelo at this point in their careers.