Does Greb's Heavyweight Resume Justify Picking Him To beat Johnson Over 10rds Or

I've given you reports from newsmen who were present.
Middle school ? Who is calling who a keyboard wanker?
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I've deleted the rest of this,, because you are not worth engaging.

 

Tunney was only once above 175lbs when he fought Greb, he beat him.

We are talking about a heavyweight champion in top shape of 208lbs.
Ive only been able to come up with one fighter of 200lbs, or over that Greb fought
Al Benedict 210lbs 9-25-0.

 

You speak for yourself .Golden Gloves.
I deleted an abusive ,angry response to you, so I'll not revisit it.

 

When assessing a fighters chances leading up to a fight would you weigh up his form leading up to that fight ,or try and envisage what his form MIGHT be like afterwards?

O Brien had won 8 of his last 9 contests, leading up to the fight with Johnson ,and was ahead on points against Ketchel before being caught in the 10 th rd.
His form was very good.

Again I refer you to your assessments of Corbett's ,and Jackson's form prior to their fights with Jeffries, both had been retired for 2 years , 33 year old Corbett had not won a fight in 6 years.
Corbett had 2 more fights after the Jeffries one. A contest with Kid McCoy widely believed to have been a fake, retired for another 3 years, then fought Jeffries again.An objective person might ask why he was given the chance.
Jackson at 37 ,was an alcoholic, and tubercular , three years retired ,in 6 years he had boxed 6 rds in a no contest with one Gustav Wilkie ,who ,by the way was 2-3-1 and a lightweight.
After the debacle with Jeffries ,Jackson had 1 more contest and was kod by novice 1-1-0 Jim Jeffords in 4 rds.
And you have the gall to mention double standards?

Do put up that poll ,and I'll do the same regarding Corbett, and Jackson.

I'll go further I'll ask whether their results in the years PREVIOUS to their challenges justified them fighting Jeffries,and in Corbett's case, receiving a title shot twice.

 

I pass.

 

How many of the 9 he had before he met Johnson did he win?
Jackson was more than past his best he was a physical wreck ,and you didn't mention Corbett.
O Brien was still good enough to beat a 30 year old Flynn a year later ,and Flynn would beat Langford a year after that, and subsequently ,Kaufmann,Morris,Norton ,Caponi,and draw with Dillon.Another of those wins O Brien registered was over Mike Schreck who , 5 months previously had stopped Marvin Hart in 4 rds.
I never suggested O Brien was prime ,but neither was he shot, he was meeting class men , such as Kaufman twice,Ketchel and Langford, plus Flynn and Schreck. this puts a different perspective on his results ,imo.

 

I never said they were top class ,I said he beat 8 out of the last 9 of them.

Lets look at his subsequent form that Mendoza disparages so heartily
How do you account for the results that Flynn acheived after losing to O Brien ,and how about Schreck stopping Hart 5 months before he lost to O Brien?
The 6rounder with Johnson was no decision affair ,unless either was stopped ,neither were so guess what? It's a draw!

Of the last 10 of O Brien's fights 3 were also rans the rest were world class, not as good as Johnson but who was then?
O Brien won two of those, which suggests he was not shot to me.