Does Harry Wills have a case to be ranked higher than Jack Dempsey?

No he couldn't his main weapon was his left jab.

 

I wonder if you caught where I was going. I was referring to the movies. (a joke, it probably fell flat)

(or did I miss your joke?)

 

Re reading it I got it .Slow on the uptake or what ? I thought when you said he could really hit the gong it was some American slang for punching power.Similar to laying the wood to him or some such.Sorry to ruin what was a good joke!

 

Miske
Brennan
Madden
Norfolk
Carpentier
Flynn

ps I couldn't find any of Carpentier's that beat these!

 

Hahaha he is back with another thread where he bet against dempsey and he says that he is not a jack hater. Everybody believes you and yes seamus will support you... He is a dempsey huge fan too

 

Both fights were at heavyweight.You want to nit pick then you add Ted Kid Lewis a welterweight as a good win at
heavyweight for Carpentier ? Carpentier hit Lewis when the referee was talking to Lewis .
Do you have any idea how absurd you are?
Smith floored Carpentier and as the Frenchman arose Smith hit him again but Carpentier dropped to one knee when the punch landed.It was a ridiculous disqualification.
Gibbons was a ranked top 3 heavyweight .Carpentier was never ranked at heavyweight and there's a good reason for that. He never beat anyone legitimately who was world class at the weight!

 

Is that what he says?

 

No The Lewis fight wasn't at heavyweight it was for the light heavyweight title and Lewis was a career welterweight . For your information Carpentier never boxed below welterweight as a professional.Im pretending nothing I've actually seen the fight but I know you haven't, otherwise you would not be making these silly statements. Here is a report of the fight in which Carpentier outweighed Lewis by 25lbs!

His drive to fight Georges Carpentier, World and European Light Heavyweight Champion, came to fruition on 11 May 1922, in the Olympia. Lewis, fighting at 150 pounds to Carpentier’s 175, spent most of the first round giving the heavier man a drubbing. Then referee Joe Palmer put a hand on Lewis’s shoulder to warn him against holding. Carpentier took advantage of this distraction and sneaked in a vicious right. The Kid went crashing to the canvas and was counted out. The Olympia crowd erupted furiously, crying, "foul," but to no avail. The Kid remained nonplussed. "I felt cheated, but I didn’t bear any grudge," he would later say.
I don't expect you to admit you are wrong, its impossible for you though it should be easy really as you usually are!

 

I am not talking about wills, the point is that you made 50 threads about dempsey and curiously you are against him in all them and still you have the courage to say that you are not a dempsey hater , you are simply obssesed with him, just admit it and it will be all fine

 

I think what has evolved from this thread is a case can be made for Wills.I don't suscribe to it but, given his wins over the other black greats it isn't outrageous.

 

More like: Dempsey, Greb, Johnson, Langford > Wills, Mcvea, Jeanette, Gibbons> Willard, Fulton

 

You never responded to this so I'm quoting your post and replying it again just to be sure you see it:


Sick Miske - Greb? Only could manage a decision despite beating on Miske for 10 rounds. Norfolk? Took a decision in a close fight, couldn't even knock Miske out. Dempsey? Annihilated him. Early.

Bill Brennan - Greb? Took 4 decisions. Greb couldn't even win the majority of rounds in their 3rd fight. Dempsey? Slaughtered him in the 12th round. The first fight Dempsey knocked Brennan down for the first time in his career...then 5 more times. Greb fought a ruined version of Brennan.

Carpentier - Jeannette? Was given a gift decision by the referee that the ringside reporters disputed. Dempsey? Annihilated Carpentier in the 4th round once he was given the OK.

Gibbons - Greb? "took of the licking of his life" at the hands of Gibbons. Greb only won one round in their first fight. It wasn't until he finally caught a break against Gibbons in an electrical storm that he was able to win a newspaper decision which was influenced by the description of one man's opinion from the 6th round on. The last fight Greb fought a stale version. Gibbons got the better of Greb in their 4 fights. Dempsey? Won every round off of Gibbons who fought on the defensive and tried to avoid the fighting the entire night.

Firpo - Wills? Went the entire 12 rounds against a guy that gave no ****s about the finer aspects of boxing. Dempsey? Beat the **** out of Firpo and put him down for the full count in two.