Does Haye even know he has a good shot here at Wlad??

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  1. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    Haye has the best chance out of the Heavyweights to dethrone one of the Klitschko's, and yeah...his best chance at beating them is now. He says he is going to retire at the end of 2011(?)...his best chance is definitely now.

    Wlad Klitschko - Wlad would be the big favourite in this bout for me, he has to be...I'd give Haye a slim chance though. I can't remember the last time Wlad fought someone with the explosive power of Haye, but Haye would need to find a way to land first. If he could time that jab (sounds easy saying it like that), use movement and angles...he could maybe employ the pull counter and try to land a big right over the top, but his work-rate has to improve.

    Vitali Klitschko - I'm not sure about this bout. At first I thought with Vitali's age, and reflexes, etc not being the same...Haye would have a good shot. But it's Hayes work-rate that is worrying me. Vitali has a great chin...so should Haye be looking for the stoppage in this bout? I'm not sure if he would be able to get it to be honest. Although there were a few glimpses of Brigg's stopping Vitali in his tracks over the weekend. Maybe if Haye could make Vitali walk onto an explosive big right...
     
  2. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

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    H'e probably got the best chance of the current crop. Again, I'm still confident that the fight will happen and Haye is looking to cash in as much as he can before he does sign. It's smashed his credibility but Haye - Harrison sold out early and the tickets weren't cheap. I'd imagine that the PPV will do alright as well even though it is a **** poor undercard. He knows he has pulling power and there is as much talk as Haye on here as there is about both Klitschko brothers, even if it is negative. Toney talks twice as much **** but he is barely mentioned now.
     
  3. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    If Haye honestly believed that he had a good chance, he would have taken it already.

    If you think he is making good money now, imagine if he was the undisputed world champ! His earnings would be off the chart.

    No, his plan is clear. Fight Wlad and get beaten for as much money as possible. He will then try to get a fight with Vitali. Of course, he wont have the belt, so the question is will Vitali be tempted by the pleasure of also beating Haye, or will there be enough money to interest him at the time?

    Again, and this cannot be repeated often enough - if Haye thought he would beat Wlad, he would have already fought him. Haye knows he will be beaten, knows it without even the tiniest bit of doubt. Which explains all of his actions perfectly.
     
  4. bratwurzt

    bratwurzt Whore Full Member

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    Sadly I think this saga can be summed up in that one sentence.
     
  5. MancMexican

    MancMexican Blood & Guts Forever Full Member

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    If Haye's lands on Wlad with the same power shot that he made Valuev do the chicken dance then we all know Wlad is going to go down like a sack of ****.

    So yes, Haye has a shot.

    However, I give him very little chance of landing that shot because Wlad is going to connect first and connect harder. Haye's Roy Jones-imitation low-swinging left hand is going to be his downfall as Wlad will easily tee off a right hand against his unprotected face. Then its all over. Wlad has the height and the reach to make that happen.

    Like a lot of others, scared Klit-lickers included (hence their insecure attacks on Haye ala *****s on Pac), I give Haye the best chance of dethroning Wlad, but Haye himself has lost all credibility with his antics (smart business or not) and in boxing terms at least, is a coward.

    However, I always thought he was crazy to gun straight for Wlad as he needed heavyweight experience before taking on such a massive task. Maybe he's realised that himself too. If so, that's smart, but it's dumb to realise it after all the boasts and promises.
     
  6. stormy

    stormy Live and Learn Full Member

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    I can not be classed as a Haye fan because i know little about him. I am seeing that he says stuff that makes him out to be vey confident about beating the Klits.

    He made them K bros want his blood when all he really wanted was a shot at their belts. He got one now. The terms of the deal must be in his favor now.

    Im starting to think Haye believes what he is saying about beating the bros.
    But who knows...if its all about the money,then he may get the Klits to fight for free in order to beat him senseless:yep
     
  7. eagleskins

    eagleskins Active Member Full Member

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    Haye has zero shot against Wlad. Haye's chin is worse than Wlads, and he's nowhere near as fast, has nowhere near the power, and nowhere near the size of Wlad.
     
  8. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    In order for Haye to win Wlad has to box at his worst and Haye has to box at his very best. Then he has a chance.

    Against a top conditioned, sharp and disciplined Wlad I don't see a chance for Haye apart from a lucky punch. Haye's defense is simply too open and he takes too many punches from fighters much slower than Wlad.
     
  9. bratwurzt

    bratwurzt Whore Full Member

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    noob in da house.
     
  10. Alf_p

    Alf_p Member Full Member

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    I guess that explains why they are fighting the likes of Audley Harrison and Derek Chisora
     
  11. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    this:good
     
  12. hoot

    hoot Active Member Full Member

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    Haye has a really good chance of not losing to either brother. BECAUSE THE ***** WONT FIGHT EITHER BROTHER
     
  13. theboy_racer

    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    :rofl
     
  14. brettchko

    brettchko 4th deg bk. belt Full Member

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    Nope Haye knows he has no chance whatsoever. Your prob. the only one outside of one or two other huggers that thinks he does.:yep
     
  15. brettchko

    brettchko 4th deg bk. belt Full Member

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    Haye who? whats his last name?:huh