Does Haymon have any Top 10 P4P Fighters?

Froch was never lineal in his division though, let alone a two division lineal champ(if Garcia manages to beat Brook/Thurman)

I understand what you mean though.

 

That's because Froch had Ward in his division. Ward is a bit better than anyone Garcia ever had to beat.

 

P4p isn't about resume. It's about skill and who beats who if they were the same weight. Resume only means as much as it reveals skill. You don't understand simple semantics if you don't get that from the term 'pound FOR pound', ie, quality per quantity. Resume is mistakenly seen to be the primary or even only measure of p4p only because being the 'best' carries so much esteem that people want to objectively measure it and establish consensus, and resume is of course more objective than 'the eye test'. But if there's a 'correct' p4p list that should be accepted as consensus what's the point in making a p4p list? What are you expressing with it? That you would rather state what's most obvious and can't pick fights for ****? In most cases everyone can acknowledge that fighter x has more top-level wins than fighter y, but there is always more ****ysis and debate in comparing which fighter is actually better, which is the true point of p4p.

 

That is laughable

 

Froch even when he didn't look impressive knew how to pull through and win fights. He was cute and underrated as a boxer. After eventually beating so many top fighters and so many different styles you had to acknowledge his skill and class and at least consider him as p4p worthy. If he was clearly outboxed by say Pascal and Abraham like Garcia was by Herrera and Peterson Froch wouldn't be as good as he in fact was. And Froch had power that Danny sure doesn't.

 

Closest guy would be Lara

 

Good comparison! Froch was pretty good fighter but had major flaws that made him often look vulnerable - Groves, Dirrell, Ward, Taylor..

 

adrien broner

 

Man Stfu, you act like you're so deep. how would you be able to gauge a fighters quality as pfp level if they haven't beaten anybody that's quality. Why do you think they ask you for a resume when you apply for a job stupid?

 

Bruh this is the dumbest argument ever, if I fight and beat Thurman,Pacquiao,&Garcia back to back to back and struggle at times and you fight Bondu,Dan & Ortiz back to back and look great no rational person should rank you above for looking better vs nobodies.
Only true determiner of how skilled you are is in the test you face i.e. competition
A guy winning close vs Ward type says more than blowing out a Rios type fighter.
P4P is resume and skills resume proves your skills.

 

You have Brook ranked pfp but not Garcia? Foh, lmao. nut:nut

 

:rofl:good

 

Danny Swift Garcia is a top fighter. Well schooled. He may look beatable but clearly does not know how to lose.

 

Adrien Broner is a 3 weight world champion. Beat some fighters like Theophane and DeMarco. They are both great fighters. His loss vs Maidana is disputed, I had it 9-3 Broner. I also had him beat Porter 118-109. E.Z work.

Garcia beat Herrera, Guerrero and Peterson. Most importantly he beat Salka. He'll probably be no.7 in my list.