Does Holyfield have the best hw resume?

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  1. Eye of Timaeus

    Eye of Timaeus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lewis, Tyson, Bowe, Foreman, Holmes, Mercer, Moorer, Douglas, Thomas, Dokes, Ruiz, Sugar Valuev and Ibragimov. That's not toppable imo.
     
  2. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. Never beat Lewis either although a draw is nice on the resume. Ali’s wins over Liston, Foreman, Frazier, Quarry, Lyle, Bonavena, Cooper, Folley, Williams, Norton, Shavers, Patterson, Moore, Terrell, Ellis, Bugner, etc etc is kind of ridiculous. And for the most part the far majority were in prime.
     
  3. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tillis, Cooper, Stewart, Byrd, Donald, Toney, and Rahman as well.
     
  4. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali is the only one who equals Evander's resume in that way. Evander, like Ali, fought almost all but a select few of his era, and thus that makes him one of the best. Even Larry Holmes and Joe Louis, who had longer title reigns and certainly faced many great fighters themselves, their resumes are significantly smaller and less impressive than Evander's.
     
  5. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holyfield was a warrior, but he can’t top the fighters Ali beat.
     
  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    His resume was outstanding. But no. I wouldn’t rate it as the best
     
  7. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    He had a great resume. The only problem is he lost a lot of the fights--often struggling with men who he had no business losing to (Ruiz, fat old James Toney, Valuev, etc). Part of it is because he stayed in the game too long and should have retired way sooner, but even before he got old he had a losing record against Bowe (1-2), Lewis (0-1-1), lost to Moore, lost to Byrd, etc. That's 5 losses and 1 draw (the draw being a blatant gift) even if we're being generous and ignoring the fights when he was past his prime. Officially he had double digit losses.

    I will say this tho, he always worked hard, ducked nobody, and fought his ass off. VERY few boxers can say they dared to be great and challenged themselves like Holyfield did. Easily a top 5-10 resume based on competitiveness and consistency with several good to great wins over many good to great opponents.
     
  8. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Louis and Ali are untouchable at HW, but Holyfield can compete against any other champion.
     
  9. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Strongly disagree on Louis. He has better and deeper resume than Evander.
     
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  10. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Lewis doesn't count for Holyfield since Holyfield never beat him

    However, in terms of guys he beat, yes, Holyfields resume is probably the best since Ali.

    A win over Bowe, two wins over a past it but still dangerous Tyson, wins over a dangerous older Foreman, Moorer, Mercer, and Dokes. Great resume.

    IMO Holyfield was past it as early as 1998. I do not count the Lewis loss against him, and certainly not the Ruiz or Toney ones. He was shot vs Toney.
     
  11. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Ali, Louis, Holyfield...Holmes, Tyson, Lewis, probably in this order. Langford had a handful of good wins too.
     
  12. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    and Rahman
     
  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Well it shits all over Vitali's!
     
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  14. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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  15. BCS8

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    Excellent resume if we ignore the losses. One thing I can say for Holyfield, he ducked nobody.