Does Holyfield have the best hw resume?

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    RICH!

    You spent you life on Vitali vs Byrd, with Vitali way in the lead and only losing to injury, then do a 180 and make excuses for Holyfield vs. Byrd and Moorer. Moorer out jabbed Holyfield plain and simple. The RODIS blame for the loss was weak.

    Lots of guys out jabbed Holfyield by the way,
     
  2. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Who did Holyfield beat they was better than himself? Lewis has a win over Holyfield. The both beat Tyson, Lewis more easily.
     
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  3. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Lewis only lost twice and avenged both losses via stoppage. Holfyield was beaten way too often. A loss is a loss. Lewis has two, Holyfield over ten, plus some lucky draws.

    He faced many big punchers that Holyfield did not. Tua, Morrison, Ruddock, Bruno etc.. and didn't need to beat on old men like Holmes or Foreman.
     
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  4. dinovelvet

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    See , there it is.. Excuses only apply to Klitschkos. Any other guy who has an injury is instantly dismissed as making excuses by you. Its all way too predictable.
     
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  5. William Walker

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    your last points are valid, but Lewis retired before he declined, though he was not young. Holyfield was almost 50 when he retired, and 7 of his losses came when he was past the age of 37, so that cannot be held against him, especially since he held his own in many of those contests. Holyfield never got any lucky draws. He drew with Lewis and Ruiz, both of whom he clearly beat that night. Go ahead, make a remark about the draw with Lewis.
     
  6. TipNom

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    Holyfield was past his best both times against lewis.
    Holyfield has a win over Riddick Bowe
    And two wins over a younger better Tyson.
     
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  7. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holyfield beat prime Bowe, Lewis beat old Holyfield.

    Bowe > Holyfield (H2H prime for prime)

    Both beat Tyson, yes, but Holyfield beat much better version of Tyson. I wouldn't rank Tyson among Lewis top 7 wins - that's how much spent he was in 2002
     
  8. Clinton

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    Gladiator
     
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  9. Clinton

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    Wow. Great one, Reinhardt
     
  10. Sangria

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    Where do you think Liston stands? Or dare I mention...Wlad?
     
  11. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Holyfield doesn't come close to Louis at top rated contenders beaten. In fact, Mike Tyson has more top ranked contenders beaten than Holyfield does.
     
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  12. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Quality of resume is who you fought AND Beat not just fought and context - when you beat a given fighter.

    Holmes and Foreman were 42/43 yrs old when Holyfueld neay then

    Tyson was not prime

    He beat Bowe only 1 of 3 while both were prime.

    1 for 2 against Moorer.

    Did not beat Lewis.

    Id put Alis resume above Holyfield

    Ali lost once from 1960-1973 and it was against the reinging undisputed champ and he avenged it twice.
     
  13. Vince Voltage

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    If we're giving so much credit for losses against name fighters, then Bigfoot Martin is an A TG.
     
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