Does it feel like being a casual fan of combat sports is better?

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  1. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    You have loose loyalty to fighters and it seems more fun to watch than being a hardcore fan. I get that feeling watching mixed martial arts and kickboxing tournaments. I don't know everyone and I can identify recognisable names and it's fun because I have no dog in the fight I just want to see blood. When I watch boxing it's feels like a job in a sense because I gamble on that and football. I no longer really get to enjoy it anymore for the sport but more for bragging rights and money.
    The reason why many gave up on boxing was not because of cherry picks but the lack of trying to compete. The reason the "element of surprise" is great because the odds are so lopsided that a dollar can make you nearly $100 dollars. Fury vs Klitschko is a perfect example. Broner vs Maidana was another fight where the odds were tipped for Broner and Chino bucked it. Mayweather vs Pacquiao ****ed up a lot of die hard boxing gamblers because Manny never even made it close and Mayweather fought Maidana with more passion.

    I'm ranting but I see regular people talking a little about Kovalev vs Ward and they don't give a damn about who wins and it's just fun for them. I will be putting $200 on Ward and my pride for some reason and it bothers me that just can't enjoy it like I use to. It's almost political.
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Its hard to keep that type of perspective when you're a hardcore fan of something, but I've always attempted to disconnect myself from the trash and politics as much as I can and not overthink anything and let my emotions guide me, and try my best to keep that child like sense of wonder and amazement about me, to feel more than think. Which is why I can remain so enthusiastic and not jaded. But I doubt most think that much about how they are perceiving the world and everything in it, so its easy for them to lose perspective and get swept up by the tedious details and lose track of what really matters.

    When you lose your sense of wonder and passion you forget why you're a fan in the first place.
     
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  3. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    200 on ward win or ward points?
     
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  4. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The only way to know is by asking a casual
     
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  5. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So, is it better?
     
  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Well since I prefer getting caught up in the emotions and feelings as opposed to overthinking all the tedious inside politics and being hyper-analytical even though that is my nature, yes.
     
  7. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Win. I have not seen if there will be a spread for the fight yet. Southpoint will have it up the Wednesday before the fight.
     
  8. cippi

    cippi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i know what you mean. i can deff watch kovalev vs ward just to see a great fight . im a die hard. its a 50 50 fight idk whos gunna win . i wouldnt bet on this fight. the fight to bet on is vargas vs pacman
     
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  9. radupidu

    radupidu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great post Willie, I've asked myself this very same question many times.
     
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  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I dunno man.

    Boxing history is a very intense and time consuming hobby of mine. iv spent so long building up my database and I've learnt so much bout fighters I'd never heard of previously. I love researching past champions but it does lead to awkward conversations.

    I feel I can't properly converse with casual boxing fans without sounding patronising. And I know very few people in real life who can converse on my level when comparing past champions. That's why I'm on this site.

    The modern game is a different kettle of fish. I'm not sure I class as a hardcore fan of modern boxing. sure i can name every champion and can discuss their style and record but do I watch enough modern boxing to class myself a hardcore fan? I'm not so sure.

    To be quite honest if I had a spare hour and there was a fight on between two modern fighters, who weren't British nor elite level. Say Orozco in his next fight, I wouldn't watch that, I'd rather watch Lou Ambers beat Tony Canzoneri. I'll watch any domestic fight, like David Price next time out. I'll watch any fight featuring elite fighters, like Gonzalez v Cuadras. But I wouldn't watch Broner in his next fight unless it was against a brit or Crawford.

    Casual/Hardcore very vague terms. I doubt anyone on this thread has researched history as much as me but I bet a lot of those on this thread watch more current boxing than I do.
     
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  11. MoJoGoodie

    MoJoGoodie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    may be closer to an historian from what it sounds like.
     
  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Friggin Elitist Snob :shakehead:
     
  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    :lol: I wouldn't say I'm elitist
     
  14. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    **** no, the casual fan misses so many good fights and finds out about things way after the fact because they don't ****. The key for the boxing fan is to concentrate on the actual fights not the bull**** surrounding them. Most of the folks into the boxing politics, negotiation tactics, purses, promotion and other shenanigans aren't real fans anyways. Usually from degenerates that wished they had a business of their own, living through people who are better than them.
     
  15. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I didn't even see this thread.

    1. I have no idea what I'm doing here right now tbh. This forum IMO is best enjoyed during big fights only. I'd otherwise say I'm a knowledgeable casual.

    2. MMA has improved because they all fight eachother, you get your moneys worth and it's the highest form of fighting (so many variables). I'm not getting that with boxing.

    3. Combat sports shouldn't be so time consuming in someone's life. That's probably the problem. It's a hobby and should stay outside working hours and hobbies aren't exactly extremely high up in priorities, otherwise you're just living through your fighters successes and never your own.

    4. Don't gamble anymore. Keep money away from raw enjoyment of the sport. I avoid gambling because it's a destructive behaviour that I don't individually support. On top of my individual perspectives, I believe God says: "O who you believe! Intoxicants (e.g. alcohol) and gambling and idols and (lottery by) arrows are an abomination of Satan’s work, so avoid them so that you may get salvation. Satan's only desire is to create among you enmity and hatred by means of intoxicants and gambling and stop you from praying and remembering God. Will you not then desist?" [Qur'an 5:90-91]