Does Jeffries belong in the top 30 of all time?

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  1. UpWithEvil

    UpWithEvil Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah, because of you :)

    THAT would be something to see - the world's greatest Greco-Roman wrestler trying to upend arguably the greatest athlete in the world. I have a couple of newspaper account of their exhibitions although Jeffries isn't credited with a throw in either one. Are you aware of any reports that credit Jeffries with a throw on Roeber during their touring?
     
    UpWithEvil, Jun 23, 2007
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  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Jeffries would probably have had his way in the clinches with any heavyweight champion in history due to his wrestling background.
     
    janitor, Jun 23, 2007
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  3. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Unfortunately, I don't have any Roeber-Jeffries newspaper accounts. If the matches were genuine rather than purely for exhibition, it would definitely be impressive to read.

    If we could locate Roeber/Jeffries, it would be the earliest wrestling film in existence.

    Ah, by the way: http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?papr:1:./temp/~ammem_E8bw::

    Enjoy. :D
     
    cross_trainer, Jun 23, 2007
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  4. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    top 3 for me beating out such accomplished pugs as Ali, Dempsey, Louis, Marciano, and Bowe.
     
    redrooster, Jun 23, 2007
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  5. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes but as time goes by there are more heavyweight champs and the top 10 is hard to squeeze in to. I think there is a top 4 Louis,Marciano,Ali,Dempsey and the rest have to double up
     
    Bummy Davis, Jun 23, 2007
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  6. UpWithEvil

    UpWithEvil Active Member Full Member

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  7. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Hmmm....

    Do a google search for "wrestling at the New York Athletic Club" in the Library of Congress's early American film database.

    Alternately, you can visit this site, but I think it only has a lower resolution version of the clip:

    http://www.open-video.org/details.php?videoid=4735
     
    cross_trainer, Jun 24, 2007
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  8. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    No question and he might get in my Top 10. In fact he was in there last time I compiled a list.
     
    Doppleganger, Jun 24, 2007
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  9. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes
     
    PowerPuncher, Jun 24, 2007
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  10. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    100% yes.
     
    Bill1234, Jun 24, 2007
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  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Tell me who?

    Or should that be "whom"?
     
    McGrain, Jun 24, 2007
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  12. C. M. Clay II

    C. M. Clay II Manassah's finest! Full Member

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    Ali, Foreman, Liston, Chuvalo, Tua, Tyson, and others.
     
    C. M. Clay II, Jun 24, 2007
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  13. Pat_Lowe

    Pat_Lowe Active Member Full Member

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    At what point in history did Tua and Chuvalo hold the title?
     
    Pat_Lowe, Jun 24, 2007
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  14. C. M. Clay II

    C. M. Clay II Manassah's finest! Full Member

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    And what does that have to do with whether they were tougher than him or not?:huh
     
    C. M. Clay II, Jun 24, 2007
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  15. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Top ten, definatly, for anybody to deny him top 30, thats just outright lieing.
     
    Beebs, Jun 25, 2007
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