Does Julio Caesar Chavez make the Top 20 All-Time

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  1. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think he is top 25 for sure, mabey even top 10.
     
  2. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can think of 20 fighters since 1940 I might place over Julio

    Arguello

    Bob Foster

    Archie Moore

    Ray Robinson

    Jose Napoles

    Roy Jones

    Pernell Whitaker

    Monzon

    Hagler

    Dick Tiger

    Ali

    Duran

    Hearns

    Ezzard Charles

    Joe Louis

    Rocky Marciano

    Eder Jofre

    Willie Pep

    Ike Williams

    Hector Camacho (prime version)
     
  3. MrMarvel

    MrMarvel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Of that list, Arguello, Tiger, Hearns, Louis, Williams, Camacho, and Jofre I would defintely put lower than Chavez. Arguello is the one who comes closest, followed by Hearns and Jofre. The others don't come close.

     
  4. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Revolver loved Chavez too LOL
     
  5. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    two exceptions: one-yes Duran did face a lightweight of Chavez caliber in Esteban Dejesus. Two Chavez never beat a fighter the caliber of Ray Leanord.
     
  6. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    :rofl
     
  7. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    One of these things is not like the other,
    One of these things just doesn't belong,
    Can you tell me which one is not like the other,
    By the time I finish my song?

    :lol:
     
  8. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You have very valid points. However to Judge a Jr. Featherweights career for a shortcoming in a Welterweight fight?? Taylor was given another opportunity & Randall ,a third match was made. How many other fighters moved up just a little too far : Robinson(Maxim) Arguello(Pryor), Napoles(Monzon). Just to name a few. Chavez always fought all comers and no one wanted to step up until his age started to show. Not saying he was the absolute best , but during his prime Chavez defeated ALL fighters placed in front of him ,without exception.
    Now I don't want to denegrade a fighter like Pernell Whitaker, but he defeated many of the same type of fighters Chavez fought early on. Also Arguably his best victory was against Buddy McGirt. Yet many have Whitaker solidly in the top twenty ATG list. He also later moved up & lost to top higher weight fighters & lost, but HIS legacy,or place in history was not so affected.