does khan have more than ortiz.

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  1. portside

    portside Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i rate ortiz very highley,and i saw his fight with madaina, i also rate khan highley, but is he faster than ortiz? does he punch harder than ortiz? etc etc, because whatever ortiz done in his madaina fight, khan will have to do better, madaina is a challenger, he's going to be very up for this, he overcame ortiz with his swarming heavy punchers style, i saw ortiz moving very fast lateraly when he needed to, but whatever it is that madaina has, when he's in full swing, ortiz couldent keep him of, ortiz can punch, but he coulden't hit hard enough to keep madaina down, can khan hit harder and keep him down?, i will say that in my opinion, any fighter, who runs from madina, would have to run pretty fast, i feel that khan can win a hard fight, where he;s been hurt, but more likely his instincts when under severe pressure will be his undoing, madaina's pressure is very severe, if it was as simple as running and outboxing him it would have already been done, he,s definatly class enough to land punches fairly regurlaly, can khan take them, were ortiz couldent?:think;):good
     
  2. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    Ortiz didn't apply his jab and establish it, look as he puts Maidana down and Maidana gets back up he runs over, It was simply a immature performance from Ortiz in a fight he could of won. He ends up throwing a Zelenoff as soon as going gets tough and gives up. He could of won fight but the lads head is all over place in that fight.


    Btw Portside try use paragraphs, you make good threads but there hard to read sometimes when you have a indepth OP :good
     
  3. NO MAS

    NO MAS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Khan has more than Ortiz...:yep

    I feel that sometimes Amir Khan does not get enough from anyone about his boxing brain...:yep His feet are a fantastic part of his defensive strategy and his fast hands are the key to his offensive style...:yep

    With the fine tuning in the Wild Card, quality sparring and now that Amir is over the pond and living the life, that is what is making all the difference...:yep
     
  4. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    He's faster than Ortiz, he moves better. Punches harder? I don't think so but its not always as simplistic as to say A punches harder than B therefore he can take the punches. There are many factors that can make a difference in how much a fighter is hurt by a punch.
     
  5. portside

    portside Boxing Addict Full Member

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    its being a gypsy/traveler, i educated myself, i coulden't write untill i was 22. but point noted, will do my best in future, thanks for pointing it out.:good
     
  6. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    Sorry Mate, i'm not great either, i just put room inbetween when i know there's to much to read :lol:. I ain't got no GCSE's so i ain't got no right to pick guys up on there English. Especially a fellow Gypsy :good
     
  7. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    I personally feel confident in terms of style that Khan wins...but there's a reason why this fight is interesting and that's his chin. If he has a solid chin like a Bradley (who only gets put down when off balance). We would be all pretty much as one in saying Khan wins...but the Chin..just doesn't breed confidence.
     
  8. portside

    portside Boxing Addict Full Member

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    12 rounds can be a long time not to get hit, i feel he can win, but it wont be pretty. he's more to lose than gain.:good
     
  9. Lilo

    Lilo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tbh - Khan is superior to Ortiz in this sport in almost every way:

    Silver medal at 17, WBA champ at the moment and beat Ortiz in the amateurs. Ortiz is good but I think Khan is a level above and has his number - see Bowe and Lewis
     
  10. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    Totally agree mate, i also agree that he has a lot to lose, if he wins you get many saying oh well Maidana was limited and power was overrated (Something i do feel is overratted a little..although i'm not foolish enough to believe he can't KO guys at world level...as he shown he can). He loses and boy!...he's gonna get some stick..because it will be a stoppage loss...cannot see a points loss.
     
  11. Lazarus

    Lazarus Realist Full Member

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    We'll see.

    Right now, I seem to be doubting Khan more than anyone right now and I'm probably the biggest ****ing supporter here :lol:.
     
  12. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    It happens...i'm like that with Cotto and other fighters i like more then others. It's boxing you just never know.....so it does make you worry.
     
  13. Lilo

    Lilo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Khan will prevail and will win via UD or late TKO - anyone worrying about Khan should just look at how much trouble Maidana had with Chop Chop FFS!!!
     
  14. Lazarus

    Lazarus Realist Full Member

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    :lol: Yeah. I just hate the feeling.
     
  15. LHL

    LHL Captain Freedom Full Member

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    I wouldn't say he has more but he definitely can box better. Better at range, quicker feet, better measurement of range and seems to know his limits now.

    Ortiz can box very well but he can brawl as well. IMO Khan is the much better fighter at his specific style in terms of one style, while Ortiz has a blend of being a good boxer who is also a decent brawler.

    In this match up with Maidana I'd say Khan stands a much better chance as he won't get dragged into the trenches like Ortiz let himself be. Although we have yet to see Khan stunned or tagged by anything meaningful since the Prescott fight so he might go all out like he used to.