Does loma need a win over devin Haney to cement his hall of fame spot

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  1. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good point! :D
     
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  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So is Adrien Broner yet I don't think anyone considers him a HOF fighter, I know what you mean though I wasn't trying to be funny.
     
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  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    He doesn't need e win for HOF admittance, but it would definitely seal the deal.
     
  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Number of world champions the current P4P top 10 have fought

    Loma = 11 in 19 fights, soon to be 12 in 20
    Clenelo = 20 in 62 fights (I think it's 20)
    Crawford = 9 in 39 fights
    Inoue = 8 in 24 fights
    Spence = 7 in 28 fights
    Usyk = 6 in 20 fights
    Josh Taylor = 5 in 19 fights
    Bivol = 4 in 21 fights
    Jermello = 4 in 37 fights
    Estrada = not sure will have to check, should imagine it's quite a lot

    Number of world title fights

    Loma = 15 in 19 fights all on the road
    Clenelo = 22 in 62 fights most in Vegas
    Inoue = 19 in 24 fights 3 on the road
    Crawford = 17 in 39 fights 1 on the road
    Bivol = 10 in 21 fights 9 on the road
    Usyk = 9 in 20 fights all on the road
    Jermello = 9 in 37 fights 0 on the road
    Spence = 7 in 28 fights 1 on the road
    Taylor = 6 in 19 fights 1 on the road
    Estrada = not sure

    To add some more perspective

    Number of world champions some other current champions have fought

    Twink = 8 in 29 fights << pure smoke & mirrors
    GGG = 7 in 45 fights
    Beterbiev = 4 in 19 fights
    Haney in = 4 in 28 fights
    Rougarou = 4 in 29 fights
    Jermallo = 3 in 32 fights
    Fury = 3 in 34 fights
    Wilder = 3 in 46 fights
    Cordina = 2 in 16 fights
    Shakur in 2 in 20 fights
    Boo Boo = 0 in 32 fights

    *I'm only doing ones I'm pretty familiar with and I don't follow the leprechaun divisions closely*

    And when you factor in size as in the number you've fought your size, bigger or way bigger, number of prime champs you've fought, number of punchers fought your size, bigger or much bigger it gets even better for Loma and worse or a lot worse for many of the others


    11 world champions fought in 19 fights in crazy and so is 15 world title fights in 19 fights

    15 world title fights is an awful lot and most champions don't take part in near that many

    And don't forget Loma didn't even turn pro till he was 25.5 y/o

    Floyd fought a ton of world title fights, turned pro at 19, won his first world title at 21, but even then the total number of title fights he fought in 50 fights is 26

    Another example

    Andre Ward = 6 world champions fought and 9 world title fights in 32 fights
     
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  5. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Beating Haney won't make anyone ATG because Haney himself hasn't accomplished much yet.
     
  6. Richmondva804

    Richmondva804 New Member Full Member

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    He's prolly the best boxer Loma face and first time he's really underdog for the undisputed title
     
  7. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's already a first ballot HOFer give his accomplishments as a pro. He has suffered not being well known because he is an Eastern European, and got no support from the US media. One of the best fighters I have ever seen.
     
  8. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don’t rate Haney much, I think he’s a weak undisputed champion, but he is an undisputed champion all the same.

    Loma becoming undisputed at 135 is something he should accomplish if he wants to be considered ATG, is the point I’m making.
     
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  9. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Loma is already a first ballot HOFer but a win over Haney and becoming undisputed will only make his HOF status even stronger.
     
  10. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Of course I have to point this out, Inoue has beaten 9, not 8.

    Paul Butler
    Nonito Donaire
    Emmanuel Rodriguez
    Juan Carlos Payano
    Jamie McDonnell
    Kohei Kono
    Omar Narvaez
    Adrian Hernandez
    Ryoichi Taguchi
     
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  11. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Any boxer can get into the hall of fame now. It don't hold the prestige that it used to have. It don't take much to get a belt. It's so many of them out there. You might be walking down the streets and find one. You can put a fake egg in a carton of real eggs, the fake egg is still fake.
     
  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Thanks. It's an old list which I did try to update, some via memory and some via checking the records of the fighters which is a pain in the ass and a super big one when you go down to the leprechaun's children sized divisions which I don't follow at all and you have to not only check the fighter's records but lots of their opponents too to see which ones were world champions. I've had to do that with Inoue and his opponents a whole bunch of times in the past. I've never heard of most of those fighters he fought at his first few weight classes
     
  13. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you including former World Champions in this list?

    Usyk has fought 4 world champions:
    Glowacki (WBO)
    Briedis (WBC)
    Gassiev (IBF & WBA)
    Joshua (IBF, WBA, & WBO)
     
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  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yes, current, former or future champions they've all fought