Does M1 constant negotiations effect Fedors Legacy?

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  1. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    While His Management Negotiates, Fedor Emelianenko's Legacy Suffers

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    While His Management Negotiates, Fedor Emelianenko's Legacy Suffers

    12/21/2010 1:10 PM ET By
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    If I had one MMA-related wish to use in 2011, I'd wish for
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    to fight at least half as often as his promotional team at M-1 Global renegotiates. If I had two wishes, I'd wish that one of those fights would be against someone who matters in the Strikeforce heavyweight division –
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    , I'm not picky.

    Alas, I have no wishes. Neither does Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker, apparently. If he did, Emelianenko would likely be wrapping up the final fight in his three-fight deal with the promotion on January 29.

    As it is, Coker couldn't get Emelianenko into a cage this January with anything less than a net and a tranquilizer gun.

    It's the kind of thing that makes you wonder, if this is how Emelianenko is planning to spend the remaining years of his career, how will the MMA world remember him when it's all over?

    Consider the
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    . With the January 29 show approaching, reports circulated that Emelianenko would complete the final fight on his current contract in a bout against
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    It wasn't exactly the fight fans were salivating over – Silva apparently earned a shot at one of the greatest heavyweights on the planet by decisioning Andrei Arlovski and then beating light heavyweight Mike Kyle – but hey, something's better than nothing. At least it's forward movement.

    That is, until it got shot down with more talk about negotiating a new contract, more vague promises about "moving in the right direction," and more assurances that everyone involved just wants to get Fedor back in action as soon as possible.

    If that's starting to sound depressingly familiar to you, you're not alone.

    This past October M-1's Evgeni Kogan wrote on his Twitter: "Another day or two and we either have a deal for more fights, or just one to complete. Fedor wants to fight as soon as possible."

    Again, that was in October. Now it's two months later and we're still hearing the same tired tune. There's still no deal for more fights and no date for when Fedor might strap on the gloves for a fight that fans only sort of want to see, and only then because it might bring us closer to a fight that's legitimately interesting.

    As Fedor promotional strategies go, M-1 seems to have taken the worst possible approach. Coming off a shocking upset loss that did profound damage to their most valuable asset, you'd think they'd want to get him back in action as soon as possible. You'd think they'd want a win to erase that bitter memory. At least that way they could negotiate a new contract with a victory under their arms.

    Instead they've chosen to drag their feet. They've decided that arranging a Fedor fight should never be any less complicated than coordinating a space shuttle launch. In the process, they've reminded us all that MMA can still go down the same frustrating path that boxing did.

    The more M-1 Global makes us wait to see Fedor fight again, the more they damage his store of goodwill with MMA fans. Back in his Pride heyday, it was not unusual for him to fight three or four times a year. Now, twice is pushing it. Now they insist on having him fight a couple also-rans for every contender he'll deign to take on.

    Imagine if M-1 managed Brock Lesnar. You think he ever would have gone from a fight with Shane Carwin to one with Cain Velasquez? Not on your life. Not unless he got to fight Cheick Kongo and maybe a middleweight or a freak show in between.

    Since his last fight under the Pride banner, Fedor has competed just six times in the ensuing four years. Of those bouts, it's difficult to argue that more than two were against top contenders.

    Such is the influence of M-1 Global on Fedor's career. Now that he's in his mid-thirties and likely closer to the end of his career than the beginning, it's hard not to think that his management team would much rather see him go out with a profitable whimper than a risky, but exciting bang.

    That's fine from M-1's perspective. They'll make plenty of money, get their logo splashed all over every arena Fedor sets foot in, and maybe even get a sweet little TV spot for their M-1 Challenge events.

    It's a good deal for them, considering Fedor is the only card they have to play. It's not such a good deal for the fans, who have spent the last year witnessing what happens when one fighter becomes a promotion unto himself and spends more time at the negotiating table than in the cage.

    Not that Fedor seems to care, but that's the kind of thing fans tend to remember even after you've hung up the gloves


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  2. Rob_Floyd

    Rob_Floyd Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He just needs to fight. It's ridiculous at this point.

    If he loses his next fight, I think he will regret all of this wasted time.
     
  3. yaca you

    yaca you Someone past surprise Full Member

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    Hard to **** up a legacy as good as fedors. I will admit I would like him to fight overeem or avenge his loss to Werdum.


    But affect his legacy negatively very very slightly. He has just accomplished too much and his career is probably close to an end anyway.
     
  4. Point of an example of M1 renegotiating Fedor's contract.
     
  5. PIRA

    PIRA Arise Sir Lennox. Full Member

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    Fedor's team is going to be negotiating to the point of irrelevancy I fear.
     
  6. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    M1 are trouble. The guy needs to fight. Simples.
     
  7. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    M1 gave been dreadful, 6 fights in 4 years is ****ing pitiful. However, his legacy's set in stone
     
  8. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    :thumbsup Boom.
     
  9. Will Cooling

    Will Cooling Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think it effects his legacy pretty dramatically and unless something changes it'll only worsen.

    Fedor proved himself to be best heavyweight and fighter of the Pride era but that era ended in 2007. Since then he has can only raise a question mark about how well he would have done facing the top UFC talent. By staying outside what is now the world's biggest MMA organisation he missed out on the chance to prove that he could replicate the same level of success in the UFC. And as so many Pride superstars struggled when they got to the UFC it can only raise doubts about how well Fedor would have done in the UFC - particularly as he didn't look overly impressive against Rogers and actually lost to Werdum.

    If Fedor had have came into the UFC in 2007 and laid waste to the competition then his legacy would be significantly stronger than it is today. Not only would he have had the unique achievement of ruling the same division in both UFC and Pride, but his name and achievements would have been far more widely known thanks to the global exposure the UFC would have given.
     
  10. yaca you

    yaca you Someone past surprise Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    the talent in the ufc since 2007 has been remarkable. the belt has changed hands 4 times from Tim Sylvia,Randy Couture, Brock, and now Velasquez. I would pick fedor to beat each of them. One of them Sylvia he already has beaten in 36 seconds!
     
  11. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Its still annoying though. Who the hell wouldnt have loved to see Mr Emelienk, Shodooorr tearing it up with Brock Shane JDS and Cain. Hell they could even have set up a superfight with Anderson. Wasted opportunities of a lifetime thanks to some seriously greedy people :verysad:verysad
     
  12. Will Cooling

    Will Cooling Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Perhaps your right...but we don't know, and the fact that we don't know does diminish his legacy. If he had defeated them all there would be no questions left to answer but as he never entered the UFC and didn't face most of those fighters there's a major question mark over the second phase of his career.

    And the thing to remember with Brock is that Fedor does not like fighting bigger men. Why do you think he never faced Sapp despite that being the biggest money match to make in Pride?
     
  13. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    I don't think its really affecting him negitivly but it is certainly not enhancing his legacy.
     
  14. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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  15. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    BWA HA HA HA :lol::lol: Is the UFC paying you to write this crap? You have to be on their payroll! This **** is magnificent in its stupidity.