Does Marquez Have A Better Skill Set Than Pacman?

He already did :yep

 

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While JMM is arguable a fighter trained in the classical sense he is IMO a brawler with a chin. If he would have boxed like he did in their first encounter after the knock downs he would be 3-0-1 against Pac.

LOL @ Pac...

If you cant cut off the ring, cant avoid a straight right even if you put a gun against his head, has no jab , lunges into coma KO's, has zero inside game and wayyyyy over rated power, dont move his head, frustrates easy and reverts to his basic 1-2, has the ring IQ of a house mouse and has zero adaptibility then you aint never gonna beat FMJ, period.

Now , if you put him against another either weightdrained or dragged up from the lower divisions flatfooted face first brawler with no defense who just came from a couple of career shortening beatings he will look like a million bucks.

I bet my bottom dollar that if FMJ sits down on his punches hits harder than Pac.

The telegraphed slow as molasses right Marquez threw that put him on his ass before the final KO is a tell tale sign what is going to come, there is a reason Roach/Arum etc never wanted that fight, they milked it til now and its cash out time.

FMJ will/would beat Manny at ANY time at ANY weight in their respective careers.

The fight will be a complete let down......

 

I've been saying since like 2009 that if Marquez had Pac or May's athletic gifts he'd beat them both. He has neither but he still manages to stay right up there competitive with them.

I wonder what wonders Nacho could have worked with Pacquiao or if he's really better off with Roach?

 

Really outrageous post, to pretend Pac has no skills and a manufactured career. Regardless of who wins on May 2, that is not the case for either man.

 

Marquez wasn't competitive at all with Mayweather really.

Albeit i don't hold it against him much as i don't rate him that highly above 130 anyway, though his fights with Pac at the higher weights are kind of a different thing with both having come up from smaller weights and knowing each other well, so i give him plenty of credit for their last two, roids or not.


But as overall fighters above 140, neither really impress me.mayweather 5 years ago was miles away from the vulnerable Cotto and a genuinely very good Welter, he would have done Pac over comfortably imo, but with both looking declined nowadays it may be a different fight.

 

To answer the question, I'm not sure Marquez has a better skill set. Pacman can certainly do more things, in part because he's more athletic.

But Marquez is smarter and that goes a long way. Maybe one of the better ring IQs of this era.

 

Also begs the question why Floyd wouldn't fight Manny after Pacquiao crushed Ricky Hatton?

 

Pac will be exposed for the one trick pony he is, guaranteed.

I would not be surprised if he gets Ko'ed, because all reckless and frustrated he is going to force the KO.......Deja VU a la Marquez.....there was absolutely no reason to lunge in like a complete amateur against a guy you are fighting for the fourth time.....zero ring IQ and getting mad is getting him stopped.

 

A "one trick pony?" A fighter universally recognized as one of the best of the last decade? Just because he loses to another great in a fight with both men past their best? Just outrageous.

Yes, Pac got KOed by Marquez in a brutal fight with both men exchanging recklessly. What of it?

And you really stand by this?

"Now , if you put him against another either weightdrained or dragged up from the lower divisions flatfooted face first brawler with no defense who just came from a couple of career shortening beatings he will look like a million bucks."

 

Floyd didn't fight anybody in this timeframe. If he met Cotto, Marg, or Pac in super fights instead of retiring temporarily for nearly two years, he probably wouldn't need to still be going on at 38. Those fights would have been huge and left him as the undisputed P4P King if he won them.

 

true.Ridiculous that he didn't make at least one back then.it's not as if he was looking at the prospect of Duran, Hearns and Leonard back to back.Cotto and Marg were just solid Welters not great fighters.

 

The day of you eating crow will come very soon, the fight will be un eventful... Pac recipe is overwhelming opponents because he cant box for ****....he aint overwhelming FMJ..... he will be drawn into a boxing match and drowned. Fact.

 

I'll eat crow for picking the wrong guy...but

I don't see how losing to Mayweather means a fighter is a fraud. Is Mayweather the only real fighter today? Just horrible logic. Should Mayweather even be credited if he beats Pac with the way you are talking, it seems if May doesn't knock this fraud out, it should count against him. :good

But if Pac beats May you are going to look awfully foolish. If I'm wrong, I backed the wrong guy in a meeting between two great past it fighters. But if your wrong, Mayweather just lost to a complete bum he should have knocked out.