Does Mayweather Deserve More Credit? (READ)

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  1. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Spinks is fighting at middleweight isnt he? How is that going to happen. Noone would tune in for that fight either. Floyd will be forced to take on a name fighter if he wants to continue to make eight figure paydays. Mosley will most likely be next.
     
  2. Flea Man

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    He's the IBF champ at 154. Trust me, that's the kinda' fight Floyd will go for, he can claim Spinks is a multi-weight champ etc etc and there was a rumour a few months ago.

    If not, Berto. Going by what's happened thus far in his career it's safe to assume Floyd isn't going to take any massive chances.
     
  3. lefthook31

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    I think all the fights are easy for him including Mosley. To me Cotto is the only one who has a shot at beating him. Judah beat Spinks and Mayweather beat Judah, so thats a fight I dont think would make it to Boxing after Dark, plus Don King would be involved which isnt going to happen on HBO.
     
  4. cotto20

    cotto20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No one knew going in thta Ross was nearing the end. Ross was on a 20 fight wins streak and coming off 2 stoppage wins, hardly past his prime.


    Mayweather was in his prime at 130. Marquez wasnt that much past his best, as most thought he was robbed against Pac man only a year early and he was coming off two stoppage wins against two world class fighters who hadnt been stoped before.

    Now both fights are similar, just that you dont want to give mayweather no credit.
     
  5. Flea Man

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    Fair enough points, but Mosley I believe has the right mix of handspeed, chin, power, jab and mix in attack to be the hardest fight at 147 for Floyd.

    P-Dub is without a doubt the hardest fight out there for him that is feasible.
     
  6. PowerPuncher

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    Duran and Napoles were faster than there opponents and Marquez faster than most WWs not to mention his timing/accuracy
     
  7. Flea Man

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    None of that was evident in this fight. Probably due to Floyds amazing skills, right?
     
  8. cotto20

    cotto20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1.He will never fight Cory Spinks. Little reward, big risk.

    2.Mayweather is a better fighter than James Toney and has accomplished more and has the better shoulder roll.

    3.Well if Mayweather chooses opponents he dosent do a bad job
    .Diego Corrales 33-0 #1 Super Feather Weight
    .Jose Luis Castillo 45-4 #1 Lightweight x2
    .Ricky Hatton 45-0 #1 Light Welter
    .Oscar De La Hoya #1 Jr Middleweight
    .JMM Number 2 P4P
     
  9. lefthook31

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    Its definitely an interesting fight. If Floyd is in fact in financial trouble, I see him taking another easy fight and then going for the Pac Cotto winner which will be the biggest purse for him. I think deep down he wants Pac and knows he can beat him easily and that was one of the main reasons for picking Marquez. The biggest issue is Arum and by beating the guy that gave Pac some serious trouble it establishes Mayweather as being the main guy in that fight. Undefeated and shut out the guy that gave him his toughest fights. Thats why these guys have had the same opponents over the last few years. Its all posturing for supremacy in both negotiations and P4P status with an eventual megafight down the road.
     
  10. My2Sense

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    How many have done that?

    And the whole reason that is considered arguably the greatest and most shocking feat in boxing history, and Armstrong is considered arguably the greatest fighter in boxing history, is because of the near-impossibility of a fighter jumping straight up that much in weight and toppling the top man there.

    Unless Mayweather was fighting Armstrong, he doesn't deserve much credit for beating a guy under those circumstances.
     
  11. Flea Man

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    Corrales as forced to come DOWN in weight after expressing previous discomfort at making 130. Was also due to be sentenced just a few weeks later for domestic violence so was hardly in the best place. I personally think Floyd beats him under any circumstances, but to me honesst that list you've put up there is hardly making me change my mind. Look at the resumes of some of the top fighters.

    Michael Nunn 36-0 regarded as top 5 P4p
    Mike McCallum 41-1-1 top five P4P.
    Iran Barkley 30-7 former Hearns conquer for IBF 168lb title
    Vaily Jirov 31-0 At Cruiser, undefeated.
    Holyfield-ATG two-weight champ, at HEAVY.

    See, this looks great but it's not telling the whole story. It's leving out the fact that the McCallum fights were close and are still debated about now, it's leaving out the trouncing to Jones, the bad stay at Light-Heavy, his lack of dedication and bad attitude. How Holyfield was waaaaay past prime.

    Just like you're leaving out Floyd fighting Gatti and Mitchell, fighting Hatton who had already seen as poor at Welter, fighting Baldomir just because he beat Judah when Margarito was there.

    Works both ways.

    P.S I'd believe he had the better shoulder roll if he implemented it against people that could actually hit him back. Like Emmanuel Augustus :deal
     
  12. cotto20

    cotto20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Greb against Tunney. Walker against Flowers

    You make some good points there. But still I feel Mayweather desveres credit
     
  13. GPater11093

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    i gave Floyd huge credit for it i expected Marquez to give him some trouble but no he shut him out and dominated him spectacularry

    im giving him credit for the win
     
  14. Robbi

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    Huh? :huh
     
  15. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Neither of those guys were jumping up in weight.

    Greb was already one of the leading LHWs at that time, and had even fought at HW. Also, Tunney was not the #1 rated guy at that weight, Carpentier was.

    Walker had been competing at MW for some time before fighting Flowers, and had even fought for the title once before.