Does Mayweather have a win over a ATG in his prime?

You agree with the OP's metrics though? Pac clowns are something else. They can't see through their own hypocrisy.

 

Canelo may end up being an ATG :good

 

Well, it's not like Margarito, Clottey, Ledbawa, and Algieri are ATGs either.

 

Marquez beat both Pacroid and Barrera. But Marquez was nothing but a tune-up for Floyd, hardly at Floyd's level.

 

Usually ATG's are great enough and accomplish enough that the peak stretch of their career, their prime, doesn't include any defeats. It's just the nature of the terms "all time great" and "prime." The argument is totally valid, my man.

How many divisions had Barrera climbed? How many wars had he been in? I thought you Pacquiao die-hards always stressed the difference between real age and boxing age. Why change your tune now? Oh, I think I know why...

 

What ATGs were there for Floyd? Margarito? Williams? Alexander?

 

So what does that mean dummy? Genero hernandez went 3 years without a loss before a green floyd with 18 pro fights beat him for the wbc jr lwt championship....the genaro hernandez thats in the HOF jerkoff!

 

Not sure what you're trying to say here

 

ib ban this dummy till after floyd/pac...

 

Castillo is just underrated unless your talking about him arguably beating Mayweather.

Win's over top guys like Lazcano,Paez,Diaz, Casamayor, Castillo,Johnston, maybe even Mayweather ect.. Castillo's resume is better than Marquez's who is supossedly an ATG an is close with Morales/Barrera.

 

There is no hypocrisy to say that the prime MAB was the one that went 14-1 over 7 years between EM1 and JMM. The one being Paquiao.

All these Floyd****s disrespect boxing to argue otherwise. They aren't boxing fans they are just stupid ****ing idiots.

 

None.

If Floyd fought Pacquiao in March 2010, he would have been fighting "a blown up past prime Flyweight who has been in many wars and recently lost/deserved to lose." So he isn't an option.

He was never anywhere close to Jones Jr or Hopkins in weight.

Don't know who he should have fought.

I don't think Morales or Barrera are ATG's at all, so the same applies to the next best fighter of the era, Pacquiao.

 

I didn't say he was past it. He just wasn't the same fighter he was at super bantam, which is where he saw his peak & prime, in between Jones II and Hamed.

He was still world class during his featherweight run, against Naz, Morales II, Tapia, Kelley, Pacquiao I, and Ayala, but it was a period of steady decline. At 130lb he was only barely world class as the effects of years of ring wear & climbing up in weight caught up to him, and beyond that, in his last five bouts, he was awful: shot, blown-up, fat and slow with the killer instincts of his youth badly regressed and the sharpness and timing of his middle period (which allowed him to restyle himself from a brawler into a boxer) were smithereens by then.

Nobody said 2003 Barrera was shot. He wasn't. 2008-2011 Barrera was shot. 2004-2007 Barrera was on his way out the door, barely clinging onto fringe world class status, while 2001-2004 Barrera was the initial period of gradual decline. His prime was from '98 until about 2001/2002.

 

The term "ATG" gets thrown around way too much by boxing fans.