does mayweather have enough power

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  1. tennis

    tennis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyds other skills include

    Pushing down on heads if someone ducks a punch

    Throw a straight right and then tie up, to stop counters

    Hs straight right is actually a great shot of his
     
  2. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    he keeps guys who outweigh him 15 + lb's honest and tenative to throw so i dont see why not
     
  3. loughlan

    loughlan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If he can make the likes of Mosley, Marquez, Cotto, Guerrero and Canelo respect his power, you can be damn sure he will be able to hurt Khan.

    Regardless of whether Floyd has true ko power or not when speed, pinpoint accuracy and immense timing meets sloppy defense, china chin and reckless machismo, there is only one outcome.
     
  4. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd is so feather fisted at WW, he couldn't Ko khan if he had loaded hand wraps
     
  5. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There's a couple misnomers in your post.

    First off, Floyd is leagues above James Toney both as an active fighter and in legacy.

    Secondly, FLoyd has been fighting out of his natural weight division for almost a decade now. He has no business fighting JMW's and big WW's for that matter, but all the big names and big moeny are in those divisions, hence his reasoning for campaigning in divisions that are above where he should actually be fighting (JWW.)

    Lastly, Zero power? Seriously? If that was the case he wouldn't be able to hold off aggressive fighters. If Canelo didn't feel his power, he would've tried to pressure Floyd and get him out of there. I think you're mistakening one punch KO power with power from an accumulation of punches. Floyd isn't a one punch knockout artist, but he definitely packs a punch in both hands, even a simple lead shot can hurt his opposition.

    The only knock on Floyd that i can see is when he gets his man hurt, he doesn't go for the kill. That's the only thing in my mind that separates him from the likes of Ray leonard or Ray Robinson; when those guys smelled blood they went for the kill. But Floyd is fighting in weight classes above where he should be naturally, so it makes sense he takes a more cautious approach even when he hurts fighters to not go for the kill as they can possibly come back with some counterpunches he wouldn't see coming.

    I look forward to him fighting Khan in the sense that Khan is also a small WW and his chin is very suspect. I'd imagine if FLoyd makes him do a little chicken dance, he'll step his offense up a bit and go for the KO.
     
  6. tennis

    tennis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Saying floyd has power is silly

    He doesn't have ko power
    He doesn't have accumulation power to wear people down

    He has effective shots that sting, even a feather fist that hits you clean is going to sting and knock your head back, it's human reaction

    These clean punches put doubts in fighters minds, that stops them from engaging, which plays into floyds game plan
     
  7. Mr Pibb

    Mr Pibb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ray Leonard and Ray Robinson didn't go for the kill when they were above their natural weights either.

    Plus

    They were naturally bigger than Mayweather and didn't have the hand trouble he does.
     
  8. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ^ @ Tennis If it didn't hurt that much, they'd take his "best" shots and continue moving forward. They'd go into a "give and take" mode with him. They don't however, and that's because they feel Mayweather's power.

    The guy walks around at 152-155 lbs. Even though he's a gym rat, he eats junk food everyday, he brags about how he eats Fatburger on a daily basis and for such a fine-tuned athlete he has extremely poor dietary habits. if he cut off from the junk food, he'd have no problem making the Junior Welterweight limit, a weight class he should naturally be fighting in giving his body frame.

    At 140, he'd be able to knock a lot of people out, but not by one punch KO power, rather an accumulation of punches. Obviously he's become extremely cautious over the latter part of his career, but that caution has allowed him to still be an elite fighter at such an advanced age. I remember what leonard looked like by his mid 30's and other P4P greats, them throwing caution to the wind and always looking for the KO caused them to get hurt constantly in fights. Floyd doesn't allow to that to happen, thus his reasoning for still looking so good at such an advanced age.

    I agree only on the notion he doesn't have one punch KO power, he never really had that even when he was campaigning as a super FW. But the guy packs a punch, if he didn't his opposition would have no problem taking his best shots and continue to move forward on him. I saw a 165 lb undefeated champion move backwards for most of their fight together. He must've felt something that alarmed him enough to not move in on Floyd.
     
  9. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good point, I was actually going to mention that. Ray Robinson still did go for the kill a good deal when he campaigned at MW, but he wasn't trying to knock people out when he went up to Light Heavy.

    And Leonard was an offensive machine until he started fighting much bigger fighters in higher weight classes (i.e. SMW.)

    And you're right, neither of those guys had chronic hand injuries like Floyd does. The guy doesn't get the credit he deserves for wiping out all the top tier fighters in such dominating fashion because his bouts don't end up in vicious knockouts. This is boxing, not knockout punching.
     
  10. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Floyd has no power, then JMM has no chin.
     
  11. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    LOL, Floyd caught JMM with a punch he didn't see, JMM is tiny though, Pac put him down 4-5 times in their fights. Face it, Floyd has no power. He lands 50% of his punches but can't even wobble 95% of his opponents. I think Hatton is the last person he got too really aside from sucker punching Ortiz. Its amazing people even both buying his PPVs, but if they are like me, it's only to see him get beat. I swear 80% of buyers are praying to see Floyd get KOd.
     
  12. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    why are guys not throwing caution to the wind against floyd? why do they all become hesitant to throw if what is coming back is feather like punches?
     
  13. boxing_master

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    hatton he kept comeing forward till he got knocked out Oscar dela hoya kept comeing forward castilo kept coming forward list goes on. some of the guys being hesitant is not because of his power but because of his timming also they know they carnt get to him so they don't wana waste points by him getting the computer points
     
  14. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did any of those fighters throw caution to the wind? No, the one that did went to sleep.

    If he cant punch then guys should be far more reckless but they arent...there is a reason for that.

    Waste points? what does that even mean?
     
  15. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought that exact same thing vs. Canelo. Dude just sat there while Floyd picked him a part and kept saying to myself wtf is he not just going crazy and throwing back. But then I realize, it hurts getting punched in the face, and although he wasn't hurt in terms of going down or making his legs weak, but his face was obviously hurting and he probably didn't want to get hit anymore.