Does Michael Moorer get the respect he deserves in classic matchup debates?

The thread is 'does he get the respect he deserves' and goes on to say that the OP favours him agaisnt Liston, Schmeling and Walcott.

Bert Cooper, as exciting as it was, does not reflect favourably on Moorers chance of beating any of those

 

Moorer's entire career is a microcosm of fans to look at what was done instead of what could have been.

"He could of unified the LHW division! Fought Prince Charles Williams or Virgil Hill!"

"He could have beaten Foreman!"

He did accomplish a fair amount in my opinion. Not as much as he "could" have, but you can't knock a 175 pounder who knocked out 225, 230 and multiple 250 pound guys.

Sure as **** did more at heavy then Haye has at this point, he even beat the **** out of and practially stopped the 6'10, 275 pound Mike White.

I'd love to see what Moorer would have done to Holyfield.

 

Because I was claiming as such, yes?

Moorer stopped Cooper 6 months after he potentially could have beaten a prime Evander Holyfield if not for some in-ring up ****ery. Cooper was dangerous, whatever else you want to label him. I can't remember any other equally dangerous, low reward high risk fighters at that time.

He wasn't stopped on his feet either, Moorer nearly tore his head off.

I also found it funny how Moore absorbed massive punishment from Cooper and kept on going, basically inviting Bert to beat on him until he blew his wad.

 

I think Moorer is a little underrated by the majority here...but to suggest he could beat Joe Walcott or Sonny Liston is a little superfluous to say the least.

Moorer had a lot of heart, he just didn't have the focus to get things done consistently. Honestly? I think in terms of a more GENERAL sense, people let Teddy Atlas' book where he pretty much made Moorer out to be some sort of glib ****** cloud their views on him. He was a good fighter who still left a lot to be desired.

 

Moorer is odd in that he probably rates higher P4P because of his weight jumping success, than he does as a fighter when strictly looking at his capablities in any one division.

A bit like Pac ina way, though obviously without the same level of acomplishment.

 

No your right, Moorer accomplished a lot especially, for his size. Hes a two time heavyweight champion, and his defeat of Holyfield was as close as Hayes over Valueav in my opinion and Valueav sucks.

 

I thiink Moorer is undreated at light heavyweight. He could punch as good as anyone if not better. He would have a punchers chance aganst anyone andwould give a lot of exlent light heavyweights a lot of problems. He was a solid to very good heavyweight.

 

As I've stated several time before, I think Moorer also gets a bad rap for having a glass chin.. Don't get me wrong, he definately did not have a chin made of granite, but all too often, his critics go too far the other way. I watched his fights against Cooper, Stewart, Smith, Foreman, and Holyfield.... All of those men hit him with some very hard shots, but only one man actually knocked him out.. The only other stoppages that I can think of were the Holyfield rematch, which was a technical knockout and the Tua fight, but Moorer was well beyond shot by that point..

So in total, he was stopped on 3 occasions in nearly 60 pro bouts, with all of them coming against guys who could punch, and one of them when he was past it.. Not bad..

 

awesome post. Liking a guy outside the ring is underrated in boxing or in any sport. Ali might be given a few notches in rating more that what he was just because of his personality. Then I think a guy like Hearns is underrated because Tommy did not have the machismo of a Duran or the talkativeness of a Leonard.

 

:thumbsupgood attitude to take my man

 

very good point all around. to be honest i have to admit, i've vastly underrated hearns partially because he's so unassuming at times. hell of a right hand but not the most bombastic personality

 

Whoops, earlier I meant to say "I'd like to see what Moorer would have done against Valuev", referencing the asskicking he gave a 6'10, 275 fighter.

 

If Tommy would have had the outgoing personality of a Hamed with those ring entrances he would have been more famous than he was, and that might have eclipsed Hagler and closed in on Leonard. The only problem is that Hearns had longevity, and maybe that type of personality takes away from the boxing skills and focus. But Hearns was so quiet and his right hand and boxing skills spoke for themselves. But image means a lot. Foreman is a guy who learned how personality added to dollars.

 

I think Moorer was quite a weak champion.

The first Holyfield fight was Evander's worst showing up until the Ruiz, Byrd or Toney fights, Holyfield was definitely starting to look old and was obviously fighting with an injury. Holyfield was fighting at about 50%. And I think Moorer barely beat him, if he even deserved the decision, it was certainly close enough to have gone the other way. And that's Moorer's crowning achievement.

On that evidence, I dont fancy Moorer's chances against any great or nearly-great historical heavyweights.

At light-heavyweight, Moorer was a headline-making power-punching up-and-coming prospect but never proved he could perform like that against the top guys.

 

I wasn't flaming you pal, I actually agree with this:good