Does muscles have anything to do with how hard you punch?

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  1. SirKillalot

    SirKillalot Boxing-FAN Full Member

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    It's about creating force. So some muscles, some speed, good technique. Creating the best or most effective movement to utilize all together.
     
  2. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Right.

    And I think actual muscle development is a bigger factor than most realize.

    And before someone posts a shot of Hearns, (if they've not already), sure leverage is a major factor, as is technique, but muscle development is the very core of strength and power and given that overall, samller fighters are much less powerful than larger, more developed fighters, muscle development it is a large part of overall punching power.

    There are exceptions, but overall is what I am speaking about.

    In my opinion.
     
  3. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    BOxing aside, I am referring to strength, as you stated......

    If your statement is correct...........Then how come all of the powerlifters are big barrel chested guys? I've never seen even one smaller powerlifter. They all HAVE to have advanced muscle development, because muscle mass is the core of strength.

    And strength, when combined with technique IS punching power.
     
  4. tito44

    tito44 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Trinidad at his natural weight, did no heavy lifting, ever. There are many welterweights, who are jacked, even now, somebody like Berto, Ortiz, could touch him in punching power. Being able to hit like that, like hearns, is something you are born with.

    http://youtu.be/VmywsYxP8kM?t=7m24s
     
  5. EJDiaZ

    EJDiaZ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Look at Pac and Caballero :rasta
     
  6. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A tad over the top, t?
     
  7. lefty

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    I know I should be staying away from this thread, too much ****** inside.
    Tendon properties, the nervous systems ability to recruit the muscles that you have and technique are responsible for power.
    Olympic lifts, Plyometrics,good technique and you have power. Punchers aren't born, some have more potential to be good punchers but anybody can be trained to punch.
    Andre Ward pushes his punches, he pushes his opponent. Julian Jackson snaps his punches, he has loose shoulders when he fires, it's all legs and torso.
    There's no mysteries or god given abilities, if you think there is then you just don't understand enough.
     
  8. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All you're doing is stating a self-serving an equation, H Has no bearing on bags-of-bones 'n muscleless monster punchers throughout boxing.
     
  9. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Trained fighters for decades 'n had great N.Y. Golden Gloves teams, l

    Have a bridge I'd like to sell you.
     
  10. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No it doesn't, v. There've been guys who look like they've just been released from concentration camps who were fearsome punchers.
     
  11. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't understand your point. What do you know about the nervous system and training it? What do you know about physics?
     
  12. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's not a mystery. Why can a mother summon up seemingly super human strength and lift up a car when her baby is in danger? It's the nervous system recruiting more muscle fibres.
    Strength isn't much to do with muscle size, it's the ability of the person to recruit what they have. Look at Olympic weightlifters.
     
  13. Bsorro

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    Does dick size add to punching power?

    and can you punch hard if you have a small dick?
     
  14. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But it is a mystery, l. Fighters have been is search of the Holy punching Grail since men fought with fists.

    Pumping iron, space-age tech, 24/7 practice, PEDs, nothing's turned a singles hitter into a home run hitter.
     
  15. acr347

    acr347 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    they have alot of fast twitch fibers, but not alot of mass. The fitness trainer/nutritionist Christian Thibadeau was an olympic powerlifter, and he was quite small no matter how hard he trained. He stated that he thought it was primarily due to genetics, but later he found out he could put more mass on with optimal nutrition.

    Most olympic powerlifters don't look like bodybuilders, they have much more strength than mass.